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<0> why should he need to put it in dead-tree form? <1> reisio, I personally prefer to learn from books as opposed to the web <2> Hello everyone, I've got a problem with my CSS layout - look at it here :http://student.fho-emden.de/~marteppe/test/about.html . The trouble is, when you resize the window so that you get a vertical scroillbar, and then scroll down, the footer is stuck in place, which looks fugly. Can someone help me ? <3> @http://student.fho-emden.de/~marteppe/test/about.html <4> (student.fho-e...) HTML: Valid ( http://tinyurl.com/2gtjvf ) CSS: Valid ( http://tinyurl.com/3c6a3e ) DOCTYPE: XHTML 1.1 + url <2> the problem is consistent across the browser i tested (IE 6 and 7, firefox 1.5), i guess its not an error so much as a design fault <0> IamEthos: I find that exceedingly silly <0> particularly when any testing you'll do is going to need a computer <3> MGPalmer: you probably used position: relative and bottom: 0... <3> MGPalmer: ah, a position: absolute and bottom: 0 <2> Markjuh: yeah <3> MGPalmer: that means that the element is always positioned at the bottom of the browser viewport... iirc <2> Markjuh: So I would think as well, but apparantly not in that special case <3> no, I'm talking nonsense here... I should reread positioning <3> ]css position <4> css position: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#propdef-position
<3> MGPalmer: okay... it should be positioned at the bottom of the containing block... which is div cl***="container" <2> yeah <2> the container div is what encloses the whole content of the page <3> yeah <3> and I see what is happening :P <2> please share you insight :) <3> you have height: 100% on your div.container, which makes sure that div is exactly as high as the browser viewport... <3> the footer is stuck at the bottom of that container div <3> but you main div has more content than the height of the browser viewport <5> how can i make this centered in IE 6? http://home.eggdrop.ch/tmp/center.html (like in firefox/safari) <3> and hence has a height > height of div.container <0> ;google valid dtd list @ tom <6> tom: http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/04/valid-dtd-list.html <0> tom: doctypes are important <3> MGPalmer: yeah, DOM Inspector confirms my guess <3> MGPalmer: your main div is higher than your container div in that case <3> MGPalmer: and that is causing the problem <5> reisio: but it still doesn't work <2> cool <0> tom: try switching #center's position: absolute; to position: relative; <3> not sure how to fix it though <2> aaah, i just removed the height: 100% property, and now it works :) <5> reisio: thanks <3> MGPalmer: good :) <5> reisio: didn't know that position:absolute can be a position which is relative to it's relatively positioned parent ;) <2> just need to check if it works in IE6, the greatest browser ever <3> lol <2> yeah, and what do you knwo: it doesnt...the footer is now always directly at the bottom of the last content <2> ok, got that now, too - added to the IE6 hack, which now gets the heigth: 100% back <2> Markjuh: Thanks for you help <3> no problem :) <2> oh and while im here, does anyone know of a way to have the border of a fieldset to be automatically as wide as the enclosed content ? all i can find about it sets a fixed width or lets the border go to the end of the screen <7> MGPalmer: block elements expand to the width of their parent. You would need to position it or float it to get it to collapse <2> ok thanks, ill look into that <8> hey guys how can I get my borders to repeat on the left, and right side there inside of a div, i have a border that is like 10px wide, and I want one on the left, then I have another image, and i want to repeat it down the right? <9> suppose I have a div#container and then inside it i have a div#left and a div#right. I float div#left to the left and div#right to the right and then I want to add a bg image to div#container that repeats-y. When I do that it doesn't go all the way down. It stops where div#left & div# right begin. But when I remove the floats it goes all the way down (but the inside divs aren't styled properly) <10> hello guys, could somebody hint me with rounded corner box on that page: http://socka.depi.sk/ (I can see only the top right corner), I followed these steps: http://roundedbox.andreas-kalt.de/ <8> ahh rounded corner boxes i had a heck of a time with them <10> tdd1984: like me :) <8> yea, but can't remember how to work with them <10> :( <8> your gett better with it, I've gotten so good with php/css/mysql/html over the past year from working with it every day for hours that I can see it in my head <8> still get confused on the absolute,fixed, and etc, but floats rock <8> been getting more into seo here latly big time <10> the box should look like that desihn preview http://socka.depi.sk/socka-01-3.png <10> *design <3> ]css position <4> css position: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#propdef-position <5> what doctype does IE use when i don't define one? <3> I should make a bookmark out of that :P <5> IE6 <3> it just does quirks mode <3> not sure, but I think that's worse than HTML 4.01 Transitional <5> yeah <5> (in my particular case it's better :P) <3> lol <5> because i can't select any text on the page when i use a html 4 transitional/strict doctype <3> then you must be doing something weird :P <5> no <5> all other browsers render correctly <5> microsoft should use the gecko/webkit engine in IE
<5> this would make a lot of things easier <0> they'd probably just **** it up <0> the only decent solution is for Microsoft to go under, as I fully expect them to do relatively soon <0> all the top execs are super rich and don't care about it much anymore, plus it can't compete with free/open source <11> And someone said a table based design is never the way to go :-) http://www.thescripts.com/forum/thread99065.html <0> coolzone: and? <11> it is <0> ...not <11> for people who care about time <11> whos got a life <0> coolzone: http://paste.css-standards.org/4357/view <0> oh noes that took so long to copy and paste <11> like I said.. a life <0> a life <8> hey guys how can I get my borders to repeat on the left, and right side there inside of a div, i have a border that is like 10px wide, and I want one on the left, then I have another image, and i want to repeat it down the right? <11> its not a good idea using those workarounds <11> you never now how new versions of browsers might react <0> tdd1984: link <0> coolzone: _I_ do <0> I know exactly how all relevant browsers will react <0> it was really hard to determine, too <8> basically I'm trying to get a border on the left, and one on the right <11> so you know the future.. well thats just great <8> the image is 10px wide, and about 400 px tall <0> I had to do the HORRIBLE task of opening the page in each of four browsers and CHECKING OMFG <8> 2 different images <0> coolzone: the future doesn't guarantee table-based layout will work properly, either <0> tdd1984: link <11> reisio, I exspect you dont work with development daily <7> lol <3> lol <7> coolzone: no, he's on IRC like you :P <0> I "work with development" more than daily :p <8> reisio: you don't need a damn link lol, if you knew you'd tell me. <11> reisio, yeeear right <0> tdd1984: it'd take too long to impart all my knowledge of CSS and height issues to you <0> tdd1984: I'd much rather just give you some code to fix your problem <8> yea, well hold on, usually i see stuff like that in my head when someones ask me a question <0> don't think you've provided enough info for that <0> and I'd rather not guess too much <3> @http://circusjopie.markjuh.net/index.html <3> @http://circusjopie.markjuh.net/index2.html <4> (circusjopie.m...) HTML: Valid ( http://tinyurl.com/2b9vo3 ) CSS: Valid ( http://tinyurl.com/36jlt2 ) DOCTYPE: HTML 4.01 Strict + url <4> (circusjopie.m...) HTML: E: ( http://tinyurl.com/yodeuu ) CSS: E: 1 ( http://tinyurl.com/2jn52t ) DOCTYPE: HTML 4.01 Strict + url <3> iek! <3> @http://circusjopie.markjuh.net/index2.html <4> (circusjopie.m...) HTML: Valid ( http://tinyurl.com/yodeuu ) CSS: Valid ( http://tinyurl.com/2jn52t ) DOCTYPE: HTML 4.01 Strict + url <3> phew <7> heh <3> okay... only difference between index.html and index2.html is: div { position: absolute; }... why do I need it to get div#wrapper to the top? <12> hey I have a max-width on a div, but when I float: right something it stretches it out to the full width of the page :( <3> which browser? <12> firefox <3> okay, unusual... usually only see that kind of thing on IE... <3> url? <8> ain't here a way I can just float my borders on the left, and right then repeat them downwards, and put elements inbetween the floats? <13> Can someone say something. I'm testing my message alerter <12> BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO <13> bugger, didnt work <8> this is driving me up the wall any one know where a tutorial is on setting image borders, on the left, and right? I need to use these borders i ahve created with images, but can't get it to work :( <3> tdd1984: like reisio said... provide a link and tell us what is wrong with that <3> because I have no idea what it is you are struggling with <8> okay <8> a site <8> you know how you put a border ont he left, and then on the right, and they repeat down words? <8> a image border <3> no... I don't have a clue what you are talking about <3> ]css border <4> css border: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/box.html#propdef-border <8> you know what a border is right? <3> yeah, the thing explained at that url <14> Border???? <15> background-repeat: repeat-y <15> try playing with that
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