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<0> or border-spacing even
<1> Dem45: You reference the image in an ./icons directory, but none seems to exist on your server. Did you upload the image from your computer to the server?
<2> yes the image is on /home/httpd/icons
<1> Well, http://sadibu.net/icons gives a not found. You might have placed it in the wrong directory.
<2> oh ok
<1> First order of business when an image doesn't show up on a page is to try to put the URL directly in your browser to make sure it's accessible to begin with.
<1> go to http://sadibu.net/icons/JamalHis_big.jpg and you'll have your answer as to why it's not showing up.
<2> i change the image place now to sadibu.net/images
<1> welly: The W3C spec says border-spacing, but that doesn't seem to work (using FireFox 1.5).
<0> does it not? hmm.. it's working here. that's odd, although that's on camino.. hang about
<1> lemme throw together a foo.html to try it out minus the rest of my page. Maybe I'm just being an idiot.
<2> trav can u see the pic now please i dont have no other pc to try
<0> lol ok
<1> Dem45: No, there's an error in your image file. Your paths are right, though.
<1> Photoshop might be of help for you.
<2> ok



<1> I get: The image http://sadibu.net/images/JamalHis_big.jpg cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.
<2> does the image has to be exact width and height before it display
<3> no
<0> any luck, trav? just checked it on firefox and it looks fine
<1> Dem45: No, it does not.
<2> ok
<4> what should i use for alternative fonts for users without "times new roman"
<2> what image can u see in that dir
<0> chutebox, serif
<4> times and serif
<4> ?
<4> k
<0> yer, why not.. both of them
<0> but serif definitel
<0> y
<0> haha -> http://xscreen.quadratica.co.uk/
<1> Dem45: I've fixed your image for you.
<1> http://kroh.net/tmp/JamalHis_big.jpg
<2> great
<1> But you're going to want to make that much, much, much smaller to reduce download time.
<2> yes i am going to
<5> that image is amazingly well compressed
<1> cheater: Photoshop, baby. Works wonders.
<5> 183 K and barely any artefacts
<1> welly: I am, in fact, being an idiot. :) thx for the help.
<0> lol
<2> trav can u see it now
<1> Dem45: Yes.
<2> oh great thank you
<1> Although it's a little out of proportion. :)
<1> (And it's still cheesy.)
<2> what width and height would u recommend
<1> If you only specify one dimension (ie, width OR height, but not both) most browsers will scale it properly.
<2> ah
<6> hi all
<7> how can i expand a div to the total height of the page?
<8> html, body, div#blah { height: 100%; }
<7> Jo-W: but this work also with IE?
<8> think so, try it
<7> Jo-W: ok, i'll try it... but at this moment i don't have pc with ie installed.
<8> http://www.totalvalidator.com/validator/ValidatorForm?type=url
<8> allows you to take browser screenshots
<7> Jo-W: great, thank you.
<1> snikker: height: 100%; will only make it the height of the browser window, not the page.
<1> AFAIK, you can only make a div the full height of a page by programmatically setting its height using JavaScript (by testing the height of the rendered page in the browser), since there's no way to know exactly how high the rendered page is until it's actually rendered.
<1> But I could be wrong.
<7> trav: ah, ok. thanks
<8> ah i thought he ment the height of the window
<1> Maybe s/he did; I might have mis-interpreted, to. :)
<1> There's a very slight, but semantically meaningful difference between "page" and "window" that it's difficult to tell what someone means at first. :)
<1> I didn't learn the intricasies of this until I coded a page with a floating navigation which I wanted to stay at the bottom of the window, regardless of page length/location. Then I had a crash course in what each browser defines as the top of the "page".
<1> Eventually I hacked something together: http://tylerandrews.net/
<8> trav: you don't need javascript, just do body { position: relative; }
<8> just tried it
<8> btw, whenever something is changed on the page, the browser reflows
<8> this is not always a total reflow tho
<8> reflow bugs are the largest factor why firefox doesn't p*** the acid 2 test :p
<8> read that some while ago so im not sure ^^
<6> I'm trying to fix this page http://new.billardcafe.at/ for Opera, the validator tells me that the html and css are validated (only recommendations left), but opera centers all boxes that should be aligned top. any suggestions why?
<1> Jo-W: are you talking about snikker's issue, or mine?
<8> snikkers



<1> So you're saying that body { position: relative; } div#foo { height: 100%; } will make the foo division the height of the page, and not the window?
<8> yep
<1> Nope.
<8> just tried it
<1> ditto.
<8> it then takes the height of the body
<9> does anyone happen to have any flash knowledge here
<9> flash room is dead
<6> myprob: nvm
<8> ah but it only works if you set the body height
<7> i've post my code here: http://pastebin.ca/146313 so you can understand what i mean
<8> which is then useless
<8> >_>
<10> anybody know of any site for good icons to use for my navigation menu? like home and stuf
<10> stuff
<1> Jo-W: Okay, i see. yeah. :)
<8> oh wait, nvm
<8> i had my content in the div
<8> and not in the body
<1> http://kroh.net/tmp/foo.php
<8> travgo try in firefox
<8> trav: go try in firefox http://www.audiorhoon.nl/joris/test.htm
<8> or any modern browser
<8> not ie :)
<3> ed1t: I can give you some of mine...
<3> ed1t: there is like 130 something in the folder
<7> i wanto to expand the gray div to the total height of the page even if i've write only two lines...
<8> so 100% of the browser window
<3> height: 100%
<3> ;
<10> pushECX2k6 nice where?
<10> i just need like 4 of em like home, about, contact, links and projects
<7> Jo-W: height: 100% don't work :-(
<3> gimme a sec, creating the archive
<10> k
<11> hey
<10> k now send
<8> snikker: gimme an url :)
<10> wont work coz of firewall
<11> any thoughts on implementing image maps with css?
<12> buzzed__: "Don't"
<10> if there any site u can upload it?
<7> Jo-W: http://pastebin.ca/146313
<11> so don't use image maps?
<3> I am doing that now
<12> buzzed__: They should be avoided in general, and those times when they are usful should generally be done with real image maps.
<10> k
<3> ed1t: intrevio.com/downloads/icons.rar
<3> er
<3> ed1t: http://www.intrevio.com/downloads/icons.rar
<1> Jo-W: I'll have to mess with this later.
<11> can i apply css to an imagemap?
<10> pushECX2k6 thx
<3> ed1t: np
<8> snikker: http://pastebin.ca/146322
<8> it is what you asked for, but i dont think it is what you intended
<13> anyone freelance here? shoot me a PM with your web site URL.
<13> have some CSS work.
<7> Jo-W: thanks for your help, but it's not what i intended...
<3> buzzed__: you can use CSS for an imagemap...not exactly sure how you would apply CSS to one though
<3> buzzed__: by use CSS I mean...make an imagemap with it
<7> Jo-W: maybe the right definition for what i need, is expand to 'browser window'?
<10> anybody know how to make a rounded square in flash mx?
<14> hi
<14> !v http://kb.veebiabi.pri.ee
<15> HTML: Valid - http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://kb.veebiabi.pri.ee
<15> CSS: Valid - http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://kb.veebiabi.pri.ee
<14> !v http://kb.veebiabi.pri.ee
<15> HTML: Valid - http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://kb.veebiabi.pri.ee
<15> CSS: Valid - http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://kb.veebiabi.pri.ee
<3> ed1t: what does that have to do with CSS?
<3> !v http://www.intrevio.com
<15> HTML: Valid - http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.intrevio.com
<15> CSS: Valid - http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.intrevio.com


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