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<0> Zoffix: I've already fixed double-wide margins on left & right
<1> alright
<1> thanks guys
<1> cya later
<0> Zoffix: ya showed me that the other day :)
<2> maxian: You can do lots of nifty things with that.
<3> ShortWave: to the "positioned" ancestor.
<2> Zoffix: Of course.
<4> Zoffix: refresh my page...i applied the href ONLY to the text on the link 'purchase this note' and its still not clickable? and what do i do to make the whole button area clickable?
<4> Zoffix: i made the div hrefd on the top nav buttons and it works perfectly fine?
<2> gaaaah
<4> Zoffix: you said hrefing a div is bad coding? :p it worked so i thought it'd be ok haha
<4> Zoffix: do you have a clear link on how to do it? listamatic and the display link you set me was bs
<3> p34r: it works only because browsers do a good job on falling back on errors. It's invalid and not semantic. Period. Do you have web developer plugin?
<4> Zoffix: yes
<3> p34r: validate your page.
<4> Zoffix: so can you point me to something that outlines what is the right way?
<4> haha ok *cringe*
<3> p34r: I did already, but you say that it is `bs`
<4> Zoffix: well it wasnt clear
<4> Zoffix: on what to do
<3> 1 sec
<2> p34r: What are you trying to do, get a hyperlink to cover a large area?
<4> ShortWave: yes, specifically a few DIVs with background: url(image.jpg)
<4> i just need them clickable
<4> and there is text in the div
<5> p34r: display: block; on an a.
<3> p34r: p34r: a{display: block;} that's what you do... I am not going to break up the specs to you.. read chapter one if you don't understand its format.. http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#h-7.5.3 explains the difference between block and inline level elements.
<4> Zoffix: ok thanks
<3> damn >_< I gotta work >_< IRC is such a time waster
<4> Zoffix: QFT
<3> ]abbr qft
<3> p34r: qft?
<4> Zoffix: quoted for truth
<4> Zoffix: hehe
<6> haha that arconym is new to me as well
<4> i see it all the time on forums
<6> whered you pick that on up? =P
<6> what forums? haha
<4> e0\m2x: dunno just the ones around
<5> `abbr qft # Hmm...
<4> weird, you guys never heard qft?
<2> e0\m2x: Probably not.
<4> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=QFT
<5> It's hard to beat the real-time interactions that IRC provides.
<0> oh MAN, I thought I got rid of an unnecessary br clear:both and fixed a spacing problem, but now, one (and only one) of the sub-pages moves the _background_ image of a div in FF only.
<5> Although mailing lists are good too (css-discuss)
<5> Nautilus: Do you have a URL?
<0> riczho: in a minute.
<4> so can i apply display: block directly to an <a href="" style="display:block;">?? that sounds crazy
<5> (Since I don't have IE6)
<3> ]css selectors @ p34r
<7> p34r, css selectors: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/selector.html
<5> p34r: Not as crazy as <div href="...">
<6> you know what would be useful... a script which takes questions from this chan (with a tiny bit of AI obviously) and posts maybe a wiki style TAGged link of the Q, which then can be tag searched on the #css page to find if the question had been asked before and what the answer is. and provide links to the answers like the bots do to random pages =)
<5> And it'll work too :)
<4> riczho: haha no i just did <a href=""><div></div>
<5> p34r: Ohh, whoops.
<5> Still, a block element in an inline element is crazy!
<6> maybe captures, say, 10-20 lines after the Q which can be then 'wiki-edited' by anyone to remove the junk text and leave the answer. that way even people that dont konw the answer can contribute to the Q&A 'm***'
<5> e0\m2x: As you've probably noticed in other channels, people never read the channel FAQ.
<5> e0\m2x: Besides, that's what the bots are for- more "personalized" canned (website) answers :;
<5> **;)
<3> riczho: p34r, not even just crazy, is invalid..
<6> well you could have a bot that links the wiki-m*** of answers instead, or even searches the answer-base tag cloud, etc =)
<6> it would be uber. and FAQ is just like being slapped on the hand with a ruler, this would be a little more helpful =)
<4> Zoffix: do you code ruby on rails?
<4> does anyone here code ror
<0> riczho: http://treestudios.net/design/index.html
<3> no
<6> and plus if someone answers a Q with a link it would just appear as the answer in the Q&A wiki-m***
<5> e0\m2x: But that wouldn't credit the authors of mentioned canned responses properly.
<5> e0\m2x: And it'd be reinventing the wheel with rewriting all of those great resources.
<6> it would just be another great resource i believe, like this channel is
<5> e0\m2x: Why add that extra layer?
<6> it would be a web based cache of all this channels many various and sometimes interesting questions
<6> along with their answers
<2> it's *almost* there.
<6> i think it would be a very unique and amazing resource
<2> has this great iterative skin system
<5> Nautilus: What page does it change on?
<5> Nautilus: Note: Name IDs/cl***es for the content of the element, not how it looks/is positioned.
<0> it's hard to explain/see what's happening. on the DESIGN page. compare FF to IE6
<0> riczho: been through that debate
<0> the content can *change* from page to page.
<0> (in this case)
<5> Nautilus: Then use a different ID/cl*** for different content.
<5> Nautilus: You can select them all in CSS anyway.
<8> riczho, you know, why do you keep on that naming thing so much? what is wrong with having a cl*** named "blue" that makes the font blue?
<0> riczho: then that's like a different ID/clss for every element on all the pages, gah!
<0> look: you might change the fpmt color
<0> font
<0> err, "lokk"
<5> lokkju_wrk: That it doesn't describe the content at all. Don't tell me that you change all the cl***names when you decide to alter the design a tiny bit.
<5> Nautilus: You you might change the position of a link as well.
<3> lokkju_wrk: in 2 month you will want all your .blue to be of red color and your #top to be on the bottom, names will make no sense at all.
<0> riczho: which link?
<0> oh, yes
<2> lokkju_wrk: I'm gonna agree on that.
<0> but i expect youre looking at my 3 columns of left, center and right. that does describe them best. I expect to reuse them in place with different content
<2> lokkju_wrk: using that kinda naming convention will just be a pathway to pain.
<5> Not to mention that those three links should be an unordered list.
<8> Zoffix, no, in that case, you would name it for the what, but in some cases, it should be perfectly find to have a cl*** named "blue", that does exactly what it says
<3> lokkju_wrk: can hardly think of that case.
<2> lokkju_wrk: Not really getting where you'd be using that.
<2> lokkju_wrk: Unless you're intending to allow it in some style editor on a content engine.
<2> lokkju_wrk: Like Mambo, for instance.
<4> Zoffix: do you still have my website page open?
<0> riczho: there arent 3 links on the design page ;)
<5> Nautilus: <ul><li><a></a></li><li><a></a></li><li><a></a></li></ul> ul { list-style: none; text-align: center; } li { display: inline; }
<5> Nautilus: That does the same thing (with appropriate margins) and doesn't require ugly cl***names.
<0> well, except for the headings
<8> well, dynamically, for one... it is easier to apply an extra cl*** to an element through javascript then it is to apply extra style properties
<2> lokkju_wrk: errrr
<5> Nautilus: That's what I was talking about first.
<3> p34r: no and I am working actually. I don't know why you can't give the link to the channel. If you can give it to a complete stranger - you can give it to the channel
<5> Nautilus: Same thing for the links below.
<0> riczho: ah, sorry. as an ol, how would I place each where I want them?
<4> Zoffix: because too many people that look at this idea is bad
<4> Zoffix: ill just pastie it, sorry for interupting your work
<5> Nautilus: Specifically what are you referring to?
<0> riczho: if the MUSIC ART and DESIGN was an "ol", how to place them horizontally?
<3> p34r: what makes you think that I will not just copy/paste your PM into the channel?
<4> Zoffix: because
<4> Zoffix: ;)
<5> Nautilus: Same CSS/HTML, replace ul with ol.
<0> there is no ul
<5> p34r: Don't worry, we see good/bad designs all the time here- we generally don't comment unless we're specifically asked to.
<0> oh, you said ul in the first place.
<0> but still
<5> Nautilus: I'm saying that one would be semantically correct there.
<5> Nautilus: And still what?
<4> riczho: its because of the concept/idea of the site
<3> p34r: the more people look at it the better input you get.
<4> riczho: the design is quite beutaful :p
<4> Zoffix: ill just pastie it its ok
<5> p34r: OK, if it's adult, etc, then I understand doing via pm (and warning the person, of course)
<2> p34r: So let's see it.
<3> ]css paste @ p34r
<7> p34r, Paste __FULL__ CSS Code _AND_ HTML code so we could _VIEW_ your page: http://paste.css-standards.org , http://paste.zoffix.com/
<2> p34r: if it's that purty
<0> the q stands whether (I used the word still) it was a ul or ol?
<3> p34r: that what test cases are for, and your design ain't that beautiful IMO
<4> Zoffix: damnit i might just do a snippit haha
<4> Zoffix: look away
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