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<0> so thers no such thing as opacity in w3c css? <1> there is <1> `css3 opacity @ NaeRey_ <2> NaeRey_, css3 opacity: http://w3.org/TR/css3-color/#opacity <1> NaeRey_: the CSS validator defaults to a CSS2 "profile", however <1> you can either tell it to use a css3-compatible profile, or just realize that 'opacity' is a standardized property regardless of whether that silly Java app knows it or not <0> sill java app = css validator? <1> yes <3> :S I was just downloading .NET Framework from MS website, and download was going at 9KB/s but my meter was showing 800KB/s download and 1500KB/s upload, and it stopped showing that as soon as download completed :S damn I feel raped by MS now :| <3> and .NET framework won't even install :\ <1> ... :/ <4> a question regarding the topic, how do you style a page with columns that spread to the bottom, the holy grail i mean <4> with faux columns? <0> spread = go till the end of page? <4> yes <0> mmm, set a min-height is what i've done..
<1> Amenthes: 'faux' means 'fake', you know... <4> well, i mean if you have let's say 2 columns, i want their height corelated <4> i know reisio <1> Amenthes: pmob.co.uk has some templates <1> `layout # here, too, probably <2> layout: examples with proper markup and css: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=CssLayouts , http://glish.com/css/ , http://bluerobot.com/web/layouts/ , http://webhost.bridgew.edu/etribou/layouts/ <1> Amenthes: so why not speak English :p <4> because that's the term i found on numerous sites :) <1> so you'd rather go with the flow than not be a choob <4> :) i don't care, i simple want some divs that act as a table <4> that's all <4> and to be cross-browser <0> setting a min-height for one of the columns works... <4> not in IE6 <0> hm <4> and that will not asure that a column with less content will have the same height as a column with more content <5> Hello! :) <5> http://www.mysystemx.com/fshop/about.php - can someone help me as to why the about border in IE6 is messing up... IE7 and all firefox versions are good. <3> man, that's a heavy divitis <3> soalf: I can bet $100 it's a hasLayout issue on one of those thousands of divs <3> ]z hl @ soalf <6> soalf, All about IE hasLayout: http://zoffix.com/css/ie/haslayout.shtml <5> ok thx Zoffix <5> thanks <5> :P <3> =] <3> I prefer *** though >:) <5> lol <7> Zoffix, are you using some kind of CMS for that website? <3> Znuff: which website? <7> zoffix <3> no <3> I use SSI though for the menu and stuff in the <head> <7> ouch <3> :/ <3> the "Quick Note" and "Post comment" scripts I coded myself. <7> what would life be without a CMS <3> heh <3> Perfect code? <7> :-) <3> Never used one and I'm pretty happy, so far I only see CMSs that generate dumb *** broken, table based code. Why would I need that? <8> i know two that don't <9> if everything on my page uses % for units of width, how is it that when i'm not maximized, all of the elements are wrapping into each other? <3> I would understand using it for large sites. But mine isn't large. <1> preaction: do tell <8> one's not ready for prime-time (my personal project), and one i'm hired to work on (WebGUI) <1> webgui? <1> plainblack.com ? <3> EricBlade: do you know that padding/borders are _added_ to width/height? <7> Zoffix, I'm using modx, you can pretty much do whatever you want with it <8> i mean, i have some major stuff to teach our designers (who insist on using tables in client work), but you can write all your own code for every part of the page <1> plainblack.com/webgui has ****ty table layout <7> unless you use snippets (php bits) coded by someone else who didn't know what he was doing :) <3> Znuff: aye, I heard it's good. Though I don't need any CMSs at the moment. <1> preaction: you can do that with ****ty CMSes, too, often <8> reisio: yes, our designers **** in that regard <1> s/with/with other <1> it's just a matter of spending hours upon hours gutting the default markup <7> preaction, I'd fire designers who insist on using tables for layouts <8> on my to-do list is a style template / set of core templates that use good web practices <8> but i'm too busy doing Perl dev
<1> preaction: perl dev for what? <8> webgui <1> ah <10> Hello! <3> http://www.zoffix.com/new/drcs/ any ideas how I could do those "fades" on the menu without using those huge *** images ( http://www.zoffix.com/new/drcs/pics/nav_home.jpg )? something with opacity maybe? <7> preaction, do you work for that webgui thingie? it's hell ugly <10> How do I make <div> not to open a new line? <7> display: inline <8> Znuff: I'm a perl dev, the previous plainblack.com sites looked a lot better, and they don't give me enough time to make designs <7> Zoffix, I think you'd want gradient from css3 :-) <3> The site has to work in IE6, IE7 and FF <8> if i shoot him, then i have to do it, and i don't have Time... :( <11> hey folks z-index:5000; <11> does that put my div above everything else? <3> arooni: as long as it is positioned <7> go for 99999999999999999999 <3> arooni: and you don't have any index above taht <11> position is absolute <3> s/taht/that/; <11> why does it have to be positioned? <8> arooni: it depends... some places it doesn't work right in IE (<table> for example) <11> ah <3> corrideat: either floats or display: inline, display inline won't be good in some cases as can be seen here -->> http://www.zoffix.com/new/del/inline.html both spans have the SAME styles, the only difference is the first one is display: block; as you can see the differences are dramatic <7> Zoffix, http://home.tampabay.rr.com/bmerkey/examples/scalable-gradient.html <- gradient for IE <3> Znuff: I don't see how that can be useful in my case :/ <7> Zoffix, apply filter for ie? <7> and I'm not sure if ff does gradient yet <3> Znuff: what about FF? and can I set that to be on that angle? <7> not sure <3> +the CSS _HAVE_ to validate <7> looking now :) <3> and I don't think it will with CSS3 things <0> hmmmmm <7> then probably you're stuck with images <3> s/have/HAS/i/; <3> s#/;#;#; <0> firefox uses min-height as 'min height' but real height can be bigger... IE doesnt recognize it, but instead thinks that height is the 'min height' and real height can be bigger... <7> NaeRey_, use ie7 script by dean edwards <5> http://www.mysystemx.com/fshop/about.php is this now looking good in IE6, IE7, and firefox guys? <0> soalf: yes the background looks rally nice... <3> NaeRey_: yeah, just p*** {height: your_min_height_value;} for IE version less 7 in the condcoms <3> ]z cc @ NaeRey_ <6> NaeRey_, IE Conditional Comments: http://www.zoffix.com/css/ie/condcom.shtml <0> why does everyone use that text? <3> What text? <8> tradition <0> latin <8> lorem ipsum <3> oh Lore, <7> NaeRey_, google for lorem ipsum <3> ]]lorem ipsum @ NaeRey_ <6> NaeRey_, http://www.lipsum.com/ ( http://tinyurl.com/yo6f7r ) <0> # Lorem ipsum (lipsum for short) is the standard placeholder text used since the 1500s in the publishing and graphic design industry <3> yup <5> also known as filler text :P <5> my clients always ask me... is that french? <0> fish text <0> can i use <!--[if gte IE 6]> in css? <3> NaeRey_: NO! <0> gah <3> NaeRey_: only where you can use regular HTML comments <3> ]z cc @ NaeRey_ <6> NaeRey_, IE Conditional Comments: http://www.zoffix.com/css/ie/condcom.shtml <3> and why in the world would you want to use them in your CSS :S <0> cause i want two columsn! <3> So!? <3> that is so freakin' irrelevant <0> so, if i set min-height, in firefox works all right <3> :S <0> but in IE it has an L shape <3> What does it have to do with setting condcoms in CSS? :S <0> if i set height, in IE works fine, but firefox has everything put one over the other
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