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<0> Kiko: 100% is '100% of the browser window' not, 100% of the page
<1> how do i do that?
<2> wtf is wrong with the fonts here: http://www.cleverharold.org/ ? it looks soo bad it hurts
<1> aaaaaaaaaaaargh
<1> my eyes
<2> god damn
<2> wtf
<2> makes me want to slap the designer
<3> contraventor: which one is supposed to be the footer?
<3> he
<3> the font is just italized :P
<2> italized ?!
<0> I see no italics?
<4> looks great for me (cleverharold)
<3> right, same for me
<0> yeah, looks... normal upright font, dont know why it would be bad
<3> I'm ***uming, he's got some funky font used, I don't have installed and others do :P
<3> on my end it show the text just italized
<1> he should ahv ajscript
<5> CommandPrompt div #servico1/2/3 position bottom relative from div #esquerda2 not work
<1> then
<3> and the rest shows fine
<0> "Lucida Sans", "Lucida Sans Unicode", "Lucida Grande", "Verdana", sans-serif;
<3> hee
<3> I must be getting verdana italics, I don't think I have lucida installed
<0> Looks pretty standard to me...
<0> He should capitalize Arial, like four times. but, still.
<3> contraventor: Desenvolvido por IP-ROUTE?
<2> this is how it looks in my ff: http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clipboard03te4.png
<5> CommandPrompt yeap;D
<5> ip-route is my domain
<0> ionel_mc: that's a bad font size. And you apparently dont have not bitmapped fonts
<0> although, I dont know any clients that resize fonts like that
<2> well.. opera and ie show the same
<2> my fonts are bad ?!
<1> yes
<1> ur fotns are agy
<1> :p
<0> ionel_mc: oh, do you have... any of those zoom things? where you zoom the screen?
<0> ionel_mc: since, that would do it. Thats what that looks like, poor raster zooming.
<2> what zoom thing man!?
<0> ionel_mc: like, in opera you can browse at 200% or 80% or whatnot. And, I know there are FF extensions for it
<2> i don't zoom
<6> I'm designing a form which features "date of birth" fields, which comprise of 3 text (input) fields (day, month and year). For each of those fields must I have a "label for" tag, and if I want to group all 3 input fields and add a label "Date of Birth" How would I go about it please? Thanks.
<2> those are at 100%
<2> and it shows the same in ie
<0> ionel_mc: you've got crappy fonts then. Or, at least, a single crappy font
<7> battlex: sadly, you need a label for each field
<2> and the would be lucida sans
<7> battlex: you're only way out would be to use JS to format the text in a single input field
<2> well... i don't get it
<3> contraventor: is at the bottom for me
<2> what OSes you guys have ?
<7> battlex: WHATWG Web Forms 2.0 will fix it by allowing some basic input types like date
<6> webben: http://www.alb***.net/php-form-toolkit/demo.php i want it to look like the "date" part in that form
<5> CommandPrompt not bottom ... div contain text "Na SILVA COLOR voc..." is align top
<6> webben: if i want "Date of Birth" to just be displayed once before all 3 fields would i make a label for all 3 fields together or what?
<7> battlex: you can't ***ociate a label with more than one field
<3> contraventor: ? come again? is at the bottom of the page, which I ***ume is meant to be a footer and correctly placed
<8> hi there
<0> battlex: you could ***ociate the label with the first, and have the second two go labelless
<6> Flannel: would that be valid, or is there a better solution?
<7> battlex: depends what you mean by valid and better
<7> battlex: it seems to be the solution used by the form you linked however
<0> battlex: one isn't required to have a label per field, so yes it's "valid", regardless
<6> yea, by valid i mean following standards
<5> CommandPrompt hmm blz ;D
<3> blitz?
<7> battlex: which ones?
<5> CommandPrompt my problem real is div esquerda2 on internet exploiter
<7> here's how RNIB do it: http://www.rnib.org.uk/xpedio/groups/public/documents/Code/public_joinrnib.hcsp
<7> battlex: not ***ociating a label with each field may well infringe WCAG
<5> CommandPrompt blz == tks on my natural language :P~
<5> CommandPrompt http://css.commctrl.com/29
<6> hmm
<5> CommandPrompt width:587px; not functional on IE
<3> I didn't expect it to :)
<7> battlex: and AFB: http://www.afb.org/Section.asp?Documentid=2962
<7> battlex: important note here: http://www.nils.org.au/ais/web/resources/ozewai2003/short_forms.htm
<7> find "Date format information"
<7> battlex: best solution, probably use invisible labels
<7> http://www.sitepoint.com/avantgo/article.php?aid=1547
<7> display-none on the real labels
<6> yea, i was thinking that
<7> day, month, year ... of birth
<7> with a fake label
<7> <div>Date of birth</div> or whatever
<7> battlex: better still would be <legend>Date of birth</legend> but that's likely to prove more tricky to style
<7> (if not impossible)
<6> ok thanks
<7> battlex: however, you probably shouldn't use display:none
<7> battlex: but hide the text some other way
<7> battlex: because of http://simon.incutio.com/archive/2003/09/13/screenReaders
<7> it's a tricky problem
<9> `ir
<10> ir: www.mezzoblue.com/tests/revised-image-replacement/
<6> but surely if it's going to be a hidden label then i dont want it to be read
<7> battlex: you want it to be read by screenreaders don't you?
<7> battlex: and screenreaders are likely to be using your form in Forms Mode
<11> ... and people who have images turned off
<7> where text that isn't in labels or fields or legend, won't be read
<7> so screenreaders won't read <div>Date of birth</date> either
<1> !v http://www.imaonline.com.au/test/New/
<10> HTML: Valid - http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.imaonline.com.au/test/New/
<10> CSS: Valid - Warnings: 9, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.imaonline.com.au/test/New/
<12> can anyone link me to a recent design technique I saw which was a 3 column layout that collapses to a stacked two column layout as the page shrinks? I can't remember the designer
<5> !v http://200.223.190.67/~silvacolor/quase-final/cadastro.php
<10> HTML: Not valid - Errors: 3, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://200.223.190.67/~silvacolor/quase-final/cadastro.php/
<10> CSS: Valid - http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://200.223.190.67/~silvacolor/quase-final/cadastro.php/
<1> ahha
<7> battlex: and 2003 is a bit old, here's some more up to date data about how this is still a problem
<1> 3 errors
<7> http://www.access-matters.com/screen-reader-test-results/
<1> n00b
<1> :p
<7> (2005)
<1> my warnigns are gay
<7> format's a bit confusing
<5> !v http://200.223.190.67/~silvacolor/quase-final/cadastro.php
<1> 'secret
<1> `secret
<10> secret: No URL = no help. We are not telepaths, and can't determine the problem (let alone the solution) without playing with the troublesome page. So, give URL, or leave the channel and call 1-900-PSYCHIC. Oh, and good luck. You'll need it.
<1> !v http://200.223.190.67/~silvacolor/quase-final/cadastro.php
<10> HTML: Not valid - Errors: 6, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://200.223.190.67/~silvacolor/quase-final/cadastro.php/
<10> CSS: Valid - http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://200.223.190.67/~silvacolor/quase-final/cadastro.php/
<1> any help with my site?
<1> www.imaonline.com.au/test/New
<1> as int he extra spce on the bottom
<1> it was never there b4
<1> but now it is
<1> any suggestios
<13> have you tried removing your set heights?
<13> I removed the mainbody one, and content height
<13> the extra whitespace is gone
<1> realy?
<1> k
<1> i'll give it a go
<1> nope
<1> k
<1> i fixed it another way
<1> :p
<1> im soo stoopid sometimes
<13> ok
<13> good
<13> what was it?
<1> hmm
<1> get rid
<1> of cotnent
<1> but keep aminbody
<13> I find "height" to be really limiting
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