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<0> yeah, body is in html
<0> but my div is only in body .. not a div between
<1> so?
<2> hello everyone, i'm trying to add an image to a site that has the main template as a background
<1> s0crates: k...
<2> but as soon as I add it, one cannot click on transparent gifs set up over certain parts of the background image that are meant for linking
<1> what're you applying the bg to?
<2> http://miamibookexchange.com/paint.txt
<2> there's the code
<2> and if you go to root miamibookexchange.com you will see the image
<2> that works fine..
<2> but i need to add an image to the center of that page, and when I do so it makes the links on the left side go inactive
<1> s0crates: fyi your doctype declaration is gimpy
<1> `doctype html4trans @ s0crates
<3> s0crates, doctype html4trans: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">;
<1> that one's good
<1> s0crates: well, what's this giant img for?
<1> mainpage.jpg
<4> grr
<2> that is the entire background for the site
<2> then i set up transparent gifs over the buttons to link elsewhere
<2> i'm better at coding perl, php c, even c++ but man i don't know anything about html, so please have some patience with me if it's a rookie mistake
<1> s0crates: set html { background: url(mainpage.jpg) no-repeat center center; }
<1> and remove the img
<4> ****ing IE!
<2> reisio: what do you mean?
<1> s0crates: use this CSS: 'html { background: url(mainpage.jpg) no-repeat center center; }'
<1> instead of the img
<2> oh i see..
<2> ok let me try that..
<2> like so..?
<2> div.headbg { background: url('mainpage.jpg') no-repeat center center; }
<1> no
<1> like so:
<1> html { background: url(mainpage.jpg) no-repeat center center; }
<2> reisio: thank you. that centers it atleast =)
<2> but let me edit this and then see if I still get the same issue..
<4> wish I could work out why IE makes tables clear the floated menu.... :/
<2> what would of been the easiest way to do what i was trying to do?
<1> I didn't understand what you were trying to do
<2> well take this image and make the site out of it
<2> like putting the invisible buttons and such
<1> right right
<1> I guess I'd put a div inside body
<1> set it to width and height of the image
<1> set the image to background
<1> set position: relative;
<1> then you add a ul or two for the nav links
<1> set the a's within the li's of the ul's to display: block; and position: aboslute: top: whatever; left: whatever; (or right: whatever;) until they're in the right spots
<2> gotcha on that.. but when i add a big image in the middle..
<2> it disables the right buttons.. watch, let me finish adjusting these relative points..
<2> relative positions, so that you can see what i'm talking about, thanks for the alignment though
<1> k
<2> damn this is really weird but now when i change the relative position of one button it affects the others.. why is that?
<1> don't use relative, use absolute :p
<2> ah absolute.. ok
<2> reisio: ok now while testing in firefox..
<2> the buttons aren't where they are in the editor
<2> and i used absolute
<2> they have all shifted over
<4> editor?
<2> and the baground image isn't aligned center
<2> yeah i'm using a gui editor for slight ***istance.. nvu
<2> background *
<5> hello
<4> hi
<4> s0crates: I tried nvu... it didn't fill me with confidence... and had a tendency to crash, iirc
<5> cheney
<5> still work on that web site?
<2> FunkyBob: ever since I used the nvu in the unstable repo from debian it has been a lot more stable
<1> heh
<2> so maybe you should give it another shot
<2> but anyways what editor you use now?
<4> s0crates: heh....
<4> well, I don't find hand coding HTML scary... so... :)
<4> I use nvi
<4> or vim, or vi... whichever is installed
<1> you sick bastard
<6> s0crates: nvu? what is that?
<2> ah..
<2> web editor for linux
<1> I never noticed that, though :p
<1> the similarity between nvu and nvi :p
<2> vi huh.. darn that's rough man
<1> ha
<6> like bluefish?
<2> i use vi for php perl and all that
<2> but to move a box around
<1> stockholm: no, more like dreamweaver, only less
<2> I like a visual guide you know =)
<1> stockholm: ever use Mozilla's or Netscape's "Composer"? That's Nvu
<4> s0crates: meh... I have the Web Developer plugin for FF... so I can dynamically edit my CSS...
<2> maybe i should use mozilla's composer..
<2> let me try that
<6> reisio: hm, i dont think so
<6> how does it compare to bluefish? (i used that a bit)
<4> I've yet to find a web authoring tool that doesn't piss me off or just basically offend me
<7> Hi all. Is it possible to use css for html that uses multiple font colors in a single paragraph. The code with out css would look like <p>Some normal text <font color="red"> and some red text</font></p>
<1> s0crates: nono
<1> s0crates: nvu is newer
<4> feugan3333: replace the font elements with span elements
<1> stockholm: it's a WYSIWYG :p
<4> feugan3333: since the "font" element is an abomination, anyway
<4> <p> Some text <span style="color: red;"> in red! </span> </p>
<1> e.g.: <span style="color: red;">some red text</span>
<1> noooo! :p
<4> snap! :)
<4> too slow, reisio ! :P
<7> FunkyBob: Thanks, I'll take a look
<2> reisio: well guess what, composer just gave me truer results
<2> i mean the alignment
<2> http://miamibookexchange.com/paint1.html
<2> that's what it's like before the problem.
<2> now let's see if nvu gives me the same issue
<2> i mean composer
<2> ah yes, and the old problem is resolved.
<2> composer is the bomb.
<2> ^-^
<1> :p
<2> thanks for your help though reisio
<2> sometimes you have to pick the right tool i suppose, and the old tool rusted in the shed did the trick
<1> np
<8> hi there, is it possible to give an divLayer the option align: center; ? to display that div centered ? (not the text inside!) can anyone help , or do i have to go to another channel ?
<4> simon23: margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;
<4> ***uming this "divLayer" is a div, or other block element
<8> FunkyBob: why doesnt text-align work ? or padding :30px for a padding of 30 px on all sides ? theres only a padding on the right side then...?
<8> FunkyBob: (will try that margin thing,... isnt margin for the content of a div ?)
<4> simon23: because text-align is for inline elements, not block elements
<4> margin is for _outside_ an element's borders...
<4> padding is for _inside_
<8> oh - so just inline... interesting :-) explains some stuff...
<8> well - thats interesting too :-)
<4> `css box
<8> thanks a lot !
<3> css box: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/box.html
<4> check that out for more detail
<8> thanks - looks like there is much interesting information on that side... (didnt know that side,... guess i will browse the whole pages of w3c...)
<4> erm
<4> they're just the people who write the standards....
<4> you know... nobody _important_ or anything.... </sarcasm> :)
<4> yeah, it's worth reading more
<8> because of the standard i want to know of it... they write them... they publish them....
<8> when all ..."webmasters" (->developers) use these standards - its more likely to be supported completely and not just mostly...
<4> simon23: when more web sites stop pandering to IEs brokenness, it might also help
<8> thats why i'm trying to code stuff just like these RFCs (or however they call the standards of the w3c ) said it should be.
<4> it's not uncommon to see people spend as much time making their site work in IE as they did getting the design right in the first place
<4> they provide HTML and CSS validator services online
<8> btw. do you know how to tell a div to use the maximum Height(100% of the browser window?)
<4> nope
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