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<0> :)
<1> opera 9 seems to be surviving... maybe
<0> hehe
<1> it's gotten stuck trying to load the page after about 6 iterations
<0> :)
<1> yep, definitely stopped loading your pag
<1> e
<1> but only that tab had hung, the browser didn't crash
<0> k
<0> heh
<2> hi
<3> 'lo xlogic
<2> i'm tryin to avoid the use of tables
<2> in a webapp i'm using
<2> but for some forms ... created with dom and innerHTML
<2> it seems to be hard to avoid it
<2> anyone knows some page with pretty nice doc on building nice forms tabeless
<4> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=tableless%20forms
<0> `form
<5> form: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=FormElements
<2> tks nnn0
<0> np
<6> !v www.w3school.com
<5> HTML: Not valid - Errors: 102, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.w3school.com
<5> CSS: Not valid - Errors: 9, Warnings: 16, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.w3school.com
<6> :X
<6> christians don't know how to code!
<0> word
<7> xlogic, there's a big difference between styling a form element and using tables for layout of your form
<2> i'm not talkin on styling
<2> form el's
<8> http://pastebin.ca/91896
<8> how come that doesn't work in IE?
<2> but the most standard and correct way to position element's
<2> without using tables
<9> Kaitlyn2004: what doesn't work?
<2> i already do it on elements ... but i always need to set a fixed size to label or input element
<2> and i wanted to avoid it
<8> Flannel: it doesn't "hover".. or rather, the gray image.. doesn't disappear as it should
<8> works fine in FieFox
<8> *firefox
<1> ie doesn't support hover on anything but links
<3> Kaitlyn2004: #myImage a:hover img {
<3> Kaitlyn2004: IE simply doesn't support that sort of selector
<8> oh really?
<3> Kaitlyn2004: if it's not an image to be pondered upon, if it's just for decoration, you can just make it a background image on the 'a'
<3> Kaitlyn2004: and then plain 'a:hover {' will work fine
<8> hmm
<2> .outer a:hover {
<2> background: url(../img/changed/newOver.png) no-repeat left top;
<2> }
<2> something like
<8> okay
<8> hmm
<8> not working :S
<8> oops
<3> ?
<8> okay i got it
<3> gj
<8> its a rollover image but if i "move around" then it flashes
<10> can anyone help me?
<10> #main div{ position:absolute; top: 113px; left: 152px; height:450px; width:550px; background-color: #fafafa; overflow: auto; } <-- is there anything wrong with this line?
<8> xdr: I don't see anything wrong
<10> http://xdr.mine.nu
<3> xdr: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
<3> Kaitlyn2004: got a link?
<8> reisio: I .. did a workaround. I just did background-position:<out of range> .. and it works. Viable solution?
<3> yes
<3> that's how the pros do it :)
<8> haha
<8> well, you know.. im a pro and all
<3> :D
<10> well <div id="main"> <-- that's the correct way to insert a <div>?
<3> xdr: that's fine, ***uming there's a '</div>' somewhere
<10> if the stylesheet points at that file where my first entry was?
<10> reisio: yes it is
<3> xdr: no, you'd want div#main {
<3> or just #main {
<3> not #main div {
<3> `selectoracle @ xdr
<5> xdr, selectoracle: http://gallery.theopalgroup.com/selectoracle/
<3> xdr: okay hold the phone :p
<3> !v http://xdr.mine.nu/
<5> HTML: Not valid - Error: 1, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://xdr.mine.nu/
<5> CSS: Valid - http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://xdr.mine.nu/
<3> xdr: you need to make your markup valid
<3> and all those conditional comments are a bad idea
<3> you don't need them
<10> thx reisio
<11> if i got 2 of these DIV's: <div style="float:left;width:150px;">, how can i make them appear under eachother instead next to eachother
<3> `css clear @ mexicaan
<5> mexicaan, css clear: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#propdef-clear
<3> mexicaan: or, you can just...not float htem
<3> them*
<11> it was just an simplified example, thanks though
<8> reisio: got another question for you
<3> Kaitlyn2004: shoot
<8> http://www.simplycertified.com/
<8> the top nav.. the "arrow" doesn't show up in IE
<3> gimme a minute to boot up IE
<3> what's this table doing here? :p
<8> table?
<8> where!?
<8> haha
<8> ooh
<8> haha
<8> i was doing something else... i'll change it no worries (although how to I do vertical-align:bottom to ACTUALLY work? lol
<3> Kaitlyn2004: ah, IE only supports :hover on 'a' elements with the 'href' attribute
<3> won't work for li's
<8> ya but i used javascript to add the onmouseover to add the cl***..
<3> Kaitlyn2004: if you know the height, you can just use a margin-top / you can also set position: relative; on the parent and use position: absolute; bottom: 0; left: 0; on the child, etc.
<8> hence why the background color changes
<3> well, you could do it without javascript at all
<3> and still have it work in IE
<8> how?
<8> just remove the whole ul/li structure and use div/spans?
<3> no no
<3> 1min let me look at it
<12> thanks all alot for your help
<12> gotta sleep now
<12> cu all
<3> Kaitlyn2004: just take the stuff you have for #nav li:hover, #nav li.over {
<3> Kaitlyn2004: and instead use #nav a:hover {
<3> no need for javascript or inserted cl***es
<8> oh true
<8> :)
<8> now... what i get is that the "arrow" seems to be up 1 px too much, and the border-top has no effect.. they both seem to go under the other..
<8> but if I remove the "big" border-top, it works fine
<8> let me re-upload for u
<3> done?
<8> updated
<3> yeah I see it, 1min
<8> ok
<8> thanks
<3> see if adding #nav a { position: relative; z-index: 1; } helps any
<13> I should just bookmark these sites.
<13> Instead of just going here and reading the topic each time I wanna visit one of 'em.
<8> reisio: no help
<3> :p
<3> Kaitlyn2004: okay let me download your page and fiddle with it
<8> haha
<8> alright :P
<3> things would be so much simpler if IE had a live css editor extension :p
<14> I'm having trouble with text-decoration: underline inheriting to all descendants in Mozilla.
<14> Trying to set text-decoration: none; in the inner element doesn't have any effect.
<3> Tronic: link?
<14> http://www.richinstyle.com/bugs/mozillademo.html section G, bug 3.
<14> There's my own page (which is currently far from validating) at http://trn.ath.cx/hls/html/ps.html
<14> Only the currently active path in the menu should be underlined, not all entries in the active menu.
<14> Works in Opera, doesn't in Mozilla.
<3> Kaitlyn2004: almost done
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