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<0> it thinks it can handle anything but then when you start using valid xhtml, it starts screaming "i'm one generation behind!! i'm one generation behind!!"
<1> try to select the invisible text
<2> how do i put a margin-top on a background-image
<2> for the body
<1> ltR20^^, background-position:
<0> bg pos
<0> so what do you guys think about using % in IE ?
<0> does using cents make sense ?
<3> IE is fine, I don't see the problems.
<0> for thou art blind
<0> kidding..
<3> what?
<3> who said what?
<0> huh?
<4> cents?
<0> yes, per cents



<5> is there a good reason to avoid the use of <center> tag?
<4> width: 50;
<4> DaDave: yup
<0> DaDave: there's a good reason to do everything
<6> css is tight... i lov it
<4> lov :)
<0> tight..
<1> reisio, ....dude just scroll up and read the question
<4> dude, I didn't even know there was one
<1> you were gonna have me copy-paste everything onto #web
<7> if i want something to be 100% wide(of parent element) but then add padding to it... say 4px in FF... then it is 100% +4px how do you normally deal with that?
<1> www.citeit.net/subscription.php?sec=book
<1> type in a title then press submit
<1> above author, there's supposed to be a green box
<1> try to select the invisible text
<0> uhoh we got a serious question here folks
<4> jakehow: deal?
<5> reisio: okay so i use <div style="position: absolute; left: 50%; maring-left: -(width/2)px;" is that correct?
<0> 'em @ Shak
<4> sort of :p
<0> darn, bot doesnt listen to strangers
<4> majd: k, typed in a title, hit enter, and?
<8> `css em @ Shak
<9> Shak, css em: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/syndata.html#em-width
<5> reisio: that means you got a other way to do it?
<1> see the gap above "author"?
<7> reisio: i mean is there a workaround?
<4> DaDave: I don't even know what you're doing :p
<4> jakehow: so many
<0> arigato riczho
<4> majd: nope
<7> reisio: what do you do normally? I have a h1 in a div that i want to be 100% wide but still have padding
<5> reisio: i have a table and i need it to be centered on the screen (just horizontaly, vertical it can stay at top: 10px;)...
<4> majd: above 'Author:'?
<1> reisio, yeah
<4> jakehow: margin
<1> there's supposed to be a green box there
<4> majd: there is
<1> try to select something in that gap
<1> are you in IE?
<8> jakehow: Give margins to the <h1.
<4> majd: um, no :p
<1> well....there you go
<7> reiso: the h1 has a background-color
<1> lol
<8> Darn.. let go of the shift key.
<4> majd: :p 1min then
<1> lol
<4> jakehow: k
<8> jakehow: line-height and padding-left.\
<8> Whoops.. typed that too fast, sorry.
<8> Remove width: 100%; on header div, and try giving it padding.
<8> Unless I'm not thinking properly.
<1> someone's trying to horizontally center things in css?
<7> well i want it to fill 100% wide
<4> majd: big space above 'citation'?
<1> reisio, .....above "Author"
<4> 'Author(s):'?
<0> whoa, I did not know so much about Ems.
<1> www.jtaby.com/Picture 1.png
<8> jakehow: It's a block, it should expand.



<0> it was like I was using a cd upside down.
<1> http://jtaby.com:81/Picture%201.png
<0> and calling the music bad
<1> check out parallels
<1> it's so incredibly awsome
<4> majd: that's not what I see
<7> riczho: in FF the h1 background overlaps the div by whatever left-padding i put in
<1> reisio, would it be too much to ask for a screenshot?
<4> majd: YES! muahahhah
<4> fine...1min
<1> LOL
<0> haha
<8> jakehow: Are you trying to do something like this: http://test.riczho.dyndns.org/css/
<1> *lol
<1> it's wasn't funny enough to deserve caps lock
<0> CAPSLOCK!! its like the cruise control for awesome
<0> Skwid couldn't take the amount of awesomeness he witnessed
<4> majd: http://reisio.com/temp/citeit.net.png
<1> hmmm
<1> maybe it's cause i'm using a newer version of internet explorer?
<1> reisio, try scrolling up and down
<1> or maybe it's a ies4linux thing
<4> 1min I'll check on a Windows comp
<4> majd: looks the same on a Windows 2000 box across the house
<4> (as mine)
<1> ummmm
<1> that's ****ed up
<4> yes, yes it is
<1> ****ING IE
<1> god damnit
<1> asdfdsaflsadflk;jadfsjk;ldfsa;jasdf;jlksfdjkl;afsdalsf;dafdsfasdjl;kdafadasfd
<1> i'm so frustrated
<4> majd: chances are if you fix it for mine, it'll be fixed for yours :p
<1> what the hell.....
<0> howdy
<4> howdie
<0> there must be some recommended CSS editor
<0> more specifically, something that will take my css and format it so it looks neat.
<0> any such thing ?
<4> any decent text editor
<4> what's your OS?
<0> xp
<0> i've been using dreamweaver, and while its really cool
<0> its just not satisfying my needs
<10> !v help
<9> HTML: Not valid - Errors: 27, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.help.com
<9> CSS: Valid - http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.help.com
<8> I use Vim!
<11> majd, still working on that eh?
<4> Shak: I used to use textpad (textpad.com) on Windows
<4> Shak: gVim would certainly do it, but most Windows users would balk at it
<11> mm majd always check that the smarty template exists before you try and load it
<0> I'll take a look at both
<4> there's TopStyle, which is the only true "css editor" I've ever seen
<0> basically I want some option to be there that would just format my existing css code
<0> alphabetize it
<0> indent
<0> i tried topstyle, no like
<11> majd, http://citeit.net:81/mla/subscription.php?sec=../file/in/upper/directory.ext thats a very bad idea
<11> woah weird, smarty issues are bound to my session, if I cause one and then another they both show up on the page, and don't go away until I dump my cookies, the more errors I cause the more that show up on the page :/
<10> i dont understand how im getting this error: Line : 234 (Level : 1) You have no color with your background-color : .largebox-sides
<10> code:
<10> .largebox-sides { background-color: #FFF; background-image: url(../images/bg-content.png);
<12> that's a warning, not an error
<10> etc
<10> well warning
<12> read the warning
<10> when i clearly have the color defined
<12> where?
<10> is #FFF; not valid?
<12> that's background-color
<11> you have a background color defined, not a color (as in text color)
<10> http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/syndata.html#value-def-color
<10> hmm


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