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<0> I don't use premade tests for my tables. Template tests don't get into the nooks and crannies.
<1> hey, how do I get a border to be count in the actual size of a div
<2> Anybody here good at CSS and javascript both ? ... and have some spare time, and an interest in news aggregator software/websites ?
<1> I have set a div to be 468px
<1> but with borders it become 470px
<3> DiaVoLo^, that's how the box model works, it's a feature not a bug
<4> `css boxmodel
<4> :(
<3> e-head, depends on what you're offering
<3> `css box
<5> css box: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/box.html
<4> Aha.
<1> hmm okay
<1> thanks
<2> hawkaloogie: I have a project about 75% done, and I'm just getting burned out. My weeknesses are definitely js and css. I hope to get this thing 1/2 way done soon and maybe set up a sourceforge project page.
<3> e-head, what language?
<2> So, you could put it on your resume and it would look nice.
<2> Well, internationalization is one of the things that should probably be added to it.
<2> Right now it's in English.
<3> i meant programming language
<2> ohh. :)
<2> php on the backend.
<6> 10 to 1 says php
<6> oh!
<6> I got it
<6> :D
<3> unless you know how to design (or just document) an interface, i ***ume i'd have to actually poke through the code. i've tried building frontends to people's CGI scripts before and it's never been pretty
<4> Yech.
<6> thats an issue with OSS in general
<3> Zeros, not my code
<3> perlbot hubris
<7> Excessive pride, the sort of thing Zeus zaps you for. Also the quality that makes you write (and maintain) programs that other people won't want to say bad things about. [Also, the thing that makes you write programs to do something that's already been done, because you believe you can do it better --- Wim.] Hence, the third great virtue of a programmer.
<4> Good code is good.
<6> the developer knows what the code does, but since he doesn't comment of document anything its useless to everyone else :|
<6> s/of/or/
<2> hawkaloogie: yeah, it's all sort of a mess right now, that is for sure.
<3> i write almost three times as much documentation as i do code, it gets pathetic sometimes
<8> hawkaloogie: you're 1/8th of a nasa engineer! ;)
<2> This sort of started as me tinkering, then kind of grew.
<6> hawkaloogie, at least you do it, the lack of documentation on software these days is horrible
<6> :(
<9> Will everything work as expected if a css link is within the body tags?
<3> Zeros, what's worse imho is the well-documented poorly-designed programs that get popular
<8> octoberdan: no
<3> octoberdan, no, that's invalid
<9> Damn it...
<2> hawkaloogie: here is what it looks like now: http://testbed.dotsandloops.net/lilya/headlines.php
<9> Is there anyway to include CSS via javascript?
<3> octoberdan, yes, but i'm not sure how well it's supported
<6> hawkaloogie, yeah :/ I love how people will create a framework, and be like "Its so cool!!", publish a website with it and then expect others to document it on a wiki
<8> octoberdan: yeah. #javascript can give youspecifics
<6> because they couldn't document the damn framework when THEY wrote the code?
<2> People that are logged in can mark items read, and save them.
<3> Zeros, http://trac.commctrl.com <- rofl
<9> Thank you for the help
<6> hehe
<3> e-head, why require login for that? use javascript, cookies, and a database of session ids
<3> or hell, you wouldn't even need javascript
<2> hawkaloogie: well, there will literally be 10's of thousands of headlines soon.
<2> Quite possibly 30,000 or so.
<2> I'll prune the headline db every month or so.
<2> But, my aggregator has about a 100 sources right now.
<3> what's the hook? what will draw the people?
<8> cheese!
<2> Well, I'm just going to make it open source, so other people can do what they want with it. For example, maybe an Astronomy department wants a site to keep track of Astronomy blogs and news sites.
<3> i mean: why would people use THIS instead of, say, Fark, or one of a million others?
<2> Or, possibly someone wants to aggregate all blogs for the state of Georgia.
<3> ahh, so it's the software more than the site
<2> Make a sort of Georgia Blogspot.
<2> Exactly.
<2> DotsAndLoops is just going to be my personal aggregator, with crap I'm interested in.
<2> I have an old aggregator I wrote: http://dotsandloops.net/
<2> It uses flat files, believe it or not. I just have to many feeds for it at this point.
<2> So, the idea was to upgrade that and make it db driven.
<10> i discovered a cool technique to do it
<11> to do what?
<11> eat potatoes?
<11> I use my mouth
<12> hi all
<10> height:auto !important;
<10> height:500px;
<10> because ie ignores important
<11> 'lo DaDave
<4> Hi!
<11> sergiol: no it doesn't
<11> does ie support !important?
<13> reisio: It has some problems with !important. - http://www.webdevout.net/browser_support_css.php#support-css2importance-important
<11> booya
<10> but i am getting what i want
<12> I have a table that has a fixed height of 300px. And i have a couple of rows in it. And i want to have one row that fills the left space. How can i do that? td style="height: 100%" does not work in IE...
<11> DaDave: should do it automatically if you set the others
<12> reisio: so i have to set height on all other td's?
<11> or just the one, whichever
<12> reisio: so i set height: XXpx on all td's and height: auto on the one that should fill the space. is that right?
<11> sure
<11> the height: auto; is redundant, though
<12> ah okay, thanks
<12> How can i position a DIV exactly in the middle of a page? (horizontaly)
<4> `deadcenter @ DaDave
<5> DaDave, deadcenter: http://www.wpdfd.com/editorial/thebox/deadcentre4.html
<4> Oops.
<4> `center @ DaDave
<5> DaDave, center: http://dorward.me.uk/www/centre/
<4> The word exactly got me that first time, sorry.
<12> thanks a lot
<10> IT IS:
<10> height:auto !important;
<10> height:500px;
<10> margin-height:500px;
<4> Margin-height?
<10> IT IS:
<10> height:auto !important;
<10> height:500px;
<10> min-height:500px;
<10> LOL
<4> Ah.
<14> hawkaloogie: how's your paste thing going?
<3> daryl-, no features added yet, i want a bot but I don't want to make one because i've got too much else to do
<15> howdy
<4> HI!
<16> hi
<15> to em or not to em, that is the question.
<16> Shak, i'd say em, but IE has problems cooperating with it sometimes
<16> so the question is...
<15> ie or not to ie
<16> to IE or not to IE, that is the question
<15> indeed it is
<15> but for ie accounts for majority of internet users, we must ie
<15> so the question then is, cooperation or forced penetration
<11> ex > em :)
<15> you mention ex ?
<4> Although taking that literally....
<14> Shak: is that legal?
<16> lol
<15> ie won't conscent :'(
<16> anyone here willing to tackle a peekaboo bug with me?
<15> its either too large or too small.
<16> Shak, the easiest thing is to make a site that IE users will generally not want to go to
<16> a site for the technologically literate
<16> and you get FF usage in the 40
<16> to 50 percentile
<15> can't do that :(
<15> what about % ?
<16> IE is a bitch
<15> yeah it is
<10> no
<16> www.citeit.net/subscription.php?sec=book
<10> IE is made by a son of a great bitch enterprise
<16> type in a title then press submit
<16> above author, there's supposed to be a green box
<15> it thinks it can handle anything but then when you start using valid xhtml, it starts screaming "i'm one generation behind!! i'm one generation behind!!"
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