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<0> nope
<0> unless you mean exactly, and no more than
<0> then you can use absolute positioning and the like
<1> what a pitty... so i will stick to my table inside the div...
<1> ? how - exactly ?
<0> { position: absolute; top: 0; bottom: 0; }
<0> though that can bring on other problems
<1> nice :)
<1> well - i am trying to avoid that other divs "slick" below my menubar on the left...
<0> you know, it's amazing how many people thing using CSS means only using div elements....
<0> slick?
<0> got a URL I can check out ?
<1> alreade thought about a menu on top of the site
<1> no url atm - just coding on my box atm
<1> i know that css is a lot more than just divs, i am about to seperate the design from the code - thats a good thing.
<0> yes :)
<0> one of those things you can never quite truely do in PHP, from what I'm told
<1> "slick" == menu on the left, div boxes centered and on the right and other div boxes (like articles or so) below the first divs , so the later divs will be below the menu which is in case just a div too
<1> i'm trying to get it like ... like with frames - like there is a menu frame on the left...
<0> you looking for a two-column layout?
<1> but frames are outdated.
<1> yes.
<1> but tables aren't good anyways.
<2> what?
<3> frames aren't outdated, they're just not what most people need.
<0> float: left; your menu, give it a width... and margin-left your main content div that width
<2> I am actually working on an application that uses frames
<0> (plus a little more, for comfort :)
<1> that hint is VERY good :)
<1> are you a professional web...designer /coder?
<2> What does being a professional have to do with wether or not frames are outdated?
<1> sorry- didnt mean that -
<0> simon23: no
<1> meant because of the css(div) hint, because i think its difficult to ...understand or - use..
<1> munter: i dont dislike frames for a special app...
<0> I'm many things... and "p***ably competend web developer" is one of them
<1> munter: i just cant use it for my project (site)
<2> Thats fair
<1> i got some knowledge on programming in different languages, but designing is a complete different world to me.. :)
<2> Well,knowing how to apply css is only a small part
<2> Understanding data structure and semantics is equally important
<2> For doing a modern webpage
<1> but its very interesting to build good designs, which are good to maintain too.
<1> i think its complicated to build a good design for a dynamic website which seperates the design from the code... but maybe thats only because i havent done that before...
<0> erm
<1> i only coded some simple sites that ...didnt have to be maintained
<2> yup. It becomes easier the more you do it
<0> I don't see why it would be difficult to separate code from content
<1> beause i never did it before :)
<0> simon23: PHP user?
<1> yes :)
<1> but only since some weeks.
<0> well... stop it :P
<0> it's giving you bad habits
<1> what else can i use ?
<0> lots...
<1> i used touse jsp.
<0> I'm quite fond of Django, myself.
<1> thats GREAT ! but... complicated to set it up (->tomcat)
<2> I think learning the frameworks in jsp is harder than setting up the server
<1> and - although i'm using php, i'm not one of those who code the xHTML like echo " htmlcode";
<0> simon23: well, that's a start :)
<1> i am trying to code the site - and then add the php infos<td> <%php whatever ?> </td>
<1> like this.
<1> i only use php because thats very common...
<0> well, I'll recommend you take a look at Django
<1> will do so.
<0> it's full of many good ideas, and makes many of the "right" ways also the "easy" way
<0> www.djangoproject.com
<1> is is an interface written in python ?
<1> is it..
<0> it is written in Python, yes
<1> one thing why i dislike python is because of the... blanks you have to use :)
<1> but ...thats a minor when i'm honestly.
<0> oh no! you have to have cleanly indented code!!!
<0> :P
<1> yes- thats what i meant.
<1> used it once.
<0> well, for a little reference....
<0> I've talked with someone on #django who managed to learn Python, Django, and port their site in about 6 to 8 hours
<0> I'm guessing it wasn't a very complex site, but still...
<1> one thing why python is interesting, is because of - you can also build apps with it... that can be run under "anyOS" and that can have a gui too...
<0> yuh
<1> but i guess thats more complicated than dynamic content for websites.
<0> I figure if I can use one language for many tasks, all the better
<0> instead of one for desktop apps, one for server apps, one for web apps, etc etc
<1> how can i use pyhton like php ? do i need to install an apache modul ? or is it much more complicated ?
<0> well, there is mod_python for Apache
<0> and that's one of the recommended ways to run Django
<0> I'm running it behind LigHTTPd, as a FastCGI service
<1> is that "faster" ?
<1> (why else would you run a python script as CGI ?)
<0> FastCGI isn't the same as CGI.... it's faster, as the name suggests
<0> it's a persistent task, rather than firing it up each time
<1> okay - so better for servers / sites with more traffic ?
<0> FastCGI is, yeah....
<1> sounds like jsp...
<0> as for if to use Apache/mod_python or LigHTTPd/FastCGI ( or Apache/FastCGI ) ... that depends on a lot of factors
<1> so that sounds like python is going to be the next java ! :)
<0> hope not :P
<1> you can create complete apps... on "every" OS ! you can create GUIs ...
<1> what is java more than that?
<4> Blog X at www.idpz.net/tomytom/blogXXX.htm
<0> as for making GUIs with Python... that can be tricky, since there's no "one" GUI lib in Python
<0> did that look like spam to you?
<1> isnt there wxPython or so ?
<0> there is
<0> it also has Tk bindings, and others
<1> i thought i have already heard of such a lib... for python windows
<0> whereas Java has its "one-true-wow-that's-a-lot-like-Motif" gui lib
<1> do you know if you can use TK bindings with other OS's than linux?
<0> simon23: Tk predates Linux
<0> and there's Tk for Win32, even
<1> nice to know
<1> is it normal that i have to 'declare' a with like 30px for example without spaces?
<0> what do you mean "without spaces"?
<1> 30 px (with a space in between ) doesnt work. :(
<0> "Doctor! Doctor! It hurts when I do this!" "Well, don't do that, then."
<0> simon23: yes, that's normal... saves the parser having to work out if it's a unit or another parameter
<5> Hi, I'm trying to use a backgroud image and tile it with CSS, but not having any luck.
<5> Any ideas how?
<6> background: url(images/myimage.gif); ?
<5> Hmm... that's what I have
<6> it should default tile it
<5> Something isn't working...
<3> where is your css file?
<3> /css/myfile.css?
<5> it's /index.css
<3> got a link?
<5> Oh, of course.
<3> yay
<3> oh
<3> no, not a <link> a url, for us to see ;)
<5> Wait, I just realised, it isn't actually linked properly, I don't quite know what's wrong, but the text-decoration: none; has no effect...
<5> http://redblades.dyndns.org/Web
<5> that should work
<5> I just started over again
<5> http://redblades.dyndns.org/Web/index.css
<7> http://www.simplycertified.com/item/custom/ ... with those fonts in the middle.. would I be able to create a CSS solution for that? Problem is the "popup image" is quite wide, so without it moving, it essentially blocks you from moving and hovering over adjacent ones...
<3> redblades: er, that page works... but, well, it's not pretty html ;) nested anchors?
<3> redblades: above that, your css page isn't actually there. Youve got some funky htaccess or something going on.
<8> redblades: remove the ,.
<8> ./
<8> and add a doctype
<8> `html doctype
<8> `doctype
<9> doctype: Take a gander at the fine document type definitions available at http://webstandards.org/learn/reference/charts/doctype-switch/ (HTML 4.01 Strict is recommended). A more complete list: http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/04/valid-dtd-list.html
<7> I have a <div> with overflow:hidden, and an image that DOES go outside this area. Is there some way that when I hover on the image, it CAN overflow?
<10> i want to have a <table> element displayed at the center of a <div> element, horizontally
<10> i fight against this for 30minutes now.... i don't know how to do
<11> Kaitlyn2004, I'm afraid not. Not with CSS 1 anyway :/
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