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<0> </div>
<0> okay i got it
<0> what is the margin : order?
<0> like is the first # top
<1> top right bottom left
<1> `css margin @ coldsteal
<2> coldsteal, css margin: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/box.html#propdef-margin
<0> thanks
<3> !v http://www.createdbycheney.com/testc/storm.cfm?funnelaction=1631
<2> HTML: Not valid - Errors: 3, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.createdbycheney.com/testc/storm.cfm?funnelaction=1631
<2> CSS: Valid - http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.createdbycheney.com/testc/storm.cfm?funnelaction=1631
<3> any idea what ia making my content disappear in FF?
<4> invalid HTML? :D
<3> i dont think so
<0> use opera
<0> its so nice
<0> i just switched
<3> k
<1> Opera is bull**** :p
<0> http://www.i-trash.org/itrash.php i cant get it lined up in the center right
<0> whay do u say that?
<0> *why
<1> because it's true
<4> remove the beginning whitespace of your html doc
<4> @ cheney
<3> k
<0> well the skype box is lined up in the menu box right
<0> *isnt
<0> http://www.i-trash.org/itrash.css
<3> fluffles i removed what i could
<4> i still see 1 white line in W3C HTML validator
<4> u sure?
<3> there is a bunch of nonhtml code above my doctype tag
<4> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.createdbycheney.com%2Ftestc%2Fstorm.cfm%3Ffunnelaction%3D1631&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&ss=1
<1> coldsteal: it's invalid to send XHTML 1.1 as text/html
<1> coldsteal: use XHTML 1.0, or better yet HTML 4.01
<4> reisio: and even IE7 doesnt support text/xml+xhtml :(
<1> application/xhtml+xml
<1> right
<0> so what should i put in?
<1> coldsteal: put in what?
<0> <meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-US" />
<0> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252" />
<1> cheney: make that code valid yet?
<3> all that i can
<1> coldsteal: only if you're using HTML or XHTML 1.0 (not 1.1)
<3> i changed it to xhtml
<4> cheney: you have z-index:-2; on your top div. what did you expect? :)
<4> *spank*
<1> coldsteal: and then you don't have to specify it
<3> k
<1> cheney: Gecko has a bug about negative indexes due to a gray area in the spec
<4> if you change it blow zero it will be 'below' the other stuff on your page
<4> so you wont see it
<1> the fix (IIRC) might be body { position: relative; z-index: 0; }. but it's simpler to just not use negative z-index's
<4> blow = below
<0> gtg
<3> ah
<0> bye
<4> byebye
<1> don't BE long :p heheh
<3> all my content is now appearing
<3> but i have no idea what to do about this: http://www.createdbycheney.com/testc/storm.cfm?funnelaction=1622
<1> it's a URI
<1> often times you click on them
<3> uri?
<3> sorry, i forgot to mention the page only looks screwed up in FF
<1> you going to describe the screwup?
<3> sorry
<1> cheney: I thought you were gonna validate your code?
<3> the paper background and foot end where the text ends
<1> wtf is this nonsense?
<1> <h1>About Me</h1>
<1> Coming soon. <P>
<1> and use a list, too
<1> `listamatic @ cheney
<2> cheney, listamatic: http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/
<3> i cannot remove that horrible P tag
<1> yes you can
<3> it is coming from the database
<1> then at least close it
<3> true
<3> !v http://www.createdbycheney.com/testc/storm.cfm?funnelaction=1621
<2> HTML: Not valid - Error: 1, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.createdbycheney.com/testc/storm.cfm?funnelaction=1621
<2> CSS: Not valid - Error: 1, Warnings: 18, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.createdbycheney.com/testc/storm.cfm?funnelaction=1621
<1> adding errors now? :p
<3> i guess so
<3> those validator bots are strange
<3> i did nothing new except close that stupid P tag
<1> yeah, sometimes
<3> !v http://www.createdbycheney.com/testc/storm.cfm?funnelaction=1621
<5> <P> doesnt exist in xhtml. <p> does
<3> good morning
<5> morning
<3> i agree Munter and i wish i could delete the damn thing
<3> but it is not in my code
<3> it is coming from the database
<5> your DB has invalid html?
<5> ugh
<6> cheney: you should always use a tag sanitizer on db stuff
<3> i dont write db code
<3> i cannot even write the coldfusion framework i am using for this site
<3> i am thinking that using my boss's coldfusion system is probably a bad idea as I am getting laid off and the company is about to fold
<7> Is there a 'live' css editor plugin for IE anywhere? Something I can fiddle with the CSS and watch it take effect rather than the whole edit-save-reload cycle?
<6> Woosta: if there is, it's probably part of Visual Studio
<5> yup. You would probably be better off with rails or turbogears or tapestry or something else depending on your programmin glanguage experience
<1> Woosta: not afaik
<6> Woosta: ask me when I'm at work to check VWD
<7> will do :)
<3> Munter any idea about this: http://www.createdbycheney.com/testc/storm.cfm?funnelaction=1621
<3> it looks good in IE
<3> but FF.............
<5> cheney: The background?
<3> yeah
<5> html, body { height: 100%; } #page { min-height: 100%; _height: 100%; } #top { overflow: auto; }
<3> k
<1> what's the point in the _height now?
<7> IE hack
<1> I know what it does
<1> I don't know why he included it
<5> reisio: Ie doesnt understand min-height
<1> so?
<1> what's wrong with 'height: 100%;'?
<5> so I was just guessing that he wanted the background to span the whole viewport
<3> thank you again munter
<5> reisio: If I set that, real browsers will only go 100%, not longer
<1> so use display: table;
<7> (Stupid IE .. set style right:0 and it's still 1px off the edge
<1> Woosta: I told it to do that to you
<5> reisio: display: table is also not supported by IE properly
<7> :-P
<1> Munter: doesn't need to be, the problem is Firefox
<1> html, body, #page { height: 100%; } #page { display: table; }
<5> reisio: The problem is not firefox. It is doing a it should, and as other browsers should as well. It's conforming to standards
<1> the problem with using 'height: 100%;' is Firefox
<5> Thats an ugly hack, and its a hack for standards compliant browsers. It's bad
<1> nonsense
<5> errh... hello?
<5> did you read the specs?
<1> it's real code instead of fake
<6> bleh, I hate fullheight crap
<5> ok, so I didnt tell him to use conditional comments
<1> frb: simple outside of IE :)
<3> how do i align text next to an image without using float?
<1> Munter: you didn't tell him to do any better
<6> reisio: I think it looks silly, and stupid though
<1> _height is actually worse than cc's imo
<1> frb: what, fullheight? :)
<5> cc's arent bad
<1> frb: it is rather old-layout-style
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