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<0> uhm. I just had a better idea
<1> sure
<0> position the logo absolute. So make #top position relative
<1> k
<0> This will make it easy to ge tthe content to start at the top later
<2> why http://www.callofduty.exilehosting.co.uk/dymo/ does'nt show the 5th piece in INTERNET EXPLORER
<1> done
<1> Ingram what 5th piece?
<2> it's left border div
<0> #page { padding: 13px 20px 20px; }
<0> #menu { margin-top: 200px; }
<0> woops. no #page. #top of course
<1> whoops
<0> the other thing would probably **** it up again :)
<1> lol
<1> the left padding does not seem to work
<0> hmm
<2> any reply?
<1> let me look Ingram
<2> why http://www.callofduty.exilehosting.co.uk/dymo/
<2> :P
<1> Ingram i am not going to help you with that until you give your ids some logical names
<2> :P
<3> perlbot hubris
<4> Excessive pride, the sort of thing Zeus zaps you for. Also the quality that makes you write (and maintain) programs that other people won't want to say bad things about. [Also, the thing that makes you write programs to do something that's already been done, because you believe you can do it better --- Wim.] Hence, the third great virtue of a programmer.
<2> i don't have any logical names but i can invent them
<0> cheney: hmm. I dont quite understand why the logo doesnt go to the corner
<0> cheney: oh, of course :)
<1> its the 13px 20px 20px
<0> #title { top: 13px; left: 0;
<0> }
<1> k
<0> ok.
<0> #menu { list-style: none; margin-top: 200px; float: left; }
<0> gettin there...
<1> Ingram by logical names i meant something like id="leftarea" or id="sidelinks" or id="contentarea"
<1> i dont have any damn idea what id1 is supposed to be
<0> remove the width from #content and set a left margin on #content of 200px
<1> k
<0> afk, gf has to use the computer
<2> now it has logical names
<1> k
<1> i am working on problems of my own at this time, so i might be slow
<1> Ingram much better
<2> cheney, error is in internet explorer. got it?
<1> yeah
<1> i am looking
<2> ok
<1> i am still a new fish
<2> :P
<5> How can I specify two DIVs to have the same height?
<5> one is floated on the left and I need one to be floated on the right
<5> but with the same height
<2> position: absolute
<5> doh
<5> that way I have to calculate
<1> i would guess to give them a parent div and set top:0px
<5> not that I can't.
<5> but automatically ain't that possible?
<6> Hi, sorry to ask this but what is the best technique for image replacement I'd like to replace my headers with images and I'd like it to remain accessible to screen readers.
<1> you would have to specify what their heights are to be and set overflow:hidden if they are to be the same
<1> if you want some sort of automatic resizing then you would have to use a javascript approach
<7> any ideas how to left align a <hr> in Mz browsers? text-align: left; seems to do it in IE
<1> that is easy
<1> <hr align="left">
<7> lol - thanks cheney
<1> i may be a new fish at css, but i am a proud master of html
<1> i can create any imaginable layout with tables
<1> its easy to do anything and everything with tables, but this css is something else
<0> cheney: back
<1> k
<8> vi1: look at http://www.mezzoblue.com/tests/revised-image-replacement/
<1> ready
<1> i solved the girlfriend problem
<8> vi1: we use the "Gilder/Levin Method" where we work
<0> Whats the url again, I change computers
<1> i get a company laptop to take home from my second job
<1> www.createdbycheney.com/testc/index.cfm
<1> www.createdbycheney.com/testc/mystyle.css
<0> cheney: Actually we have two laptops and a workstation. I just had to bother to set the workstation up again :)
<1> ah
<2> cheney, my problem ? :P
<1> i am sorry Ingram
<1> i have no idea
<2> .(
<1> you might have to set a 1px border on that one element
<9> I'm looking for a channel for W3C's WCAGs
<0> cheney: #content { margin-left: 200px; } remove the margin
<1> done
<7> time for food - back in 30 or so...
<0> k, the paddign will probably have to be revised later
<1> understood
<0> Now. Did you understand what was going on in tht #title with the image replacement?
<1> you are setting the image as a background
<1> just like a table cell background
<0> yup
<0> And hding the text with the negative text indent
<0> This means you can still have text inside your html even though the user doesnt see it
<0> This is important to blind people and search engines that index your site
<0> And generally to have an easily readable structure
<1> so i should enter a bunch of keyword garbage in there if i wanted to be crude?
<0> If you want google to drop you from the listing :)
<1> lol
<0> So now we go to work on the menu again
<1> excellent
<0> I need you to edit the top and bottom of the menu again. Crop them by 1 pixel so you have everything but the border of the menu
<1> k
<0> also, if possible, remove as much of the background color as possible. We will let the background from #page show through
<0> gif is the obvious choice here
<0> few colors
<0> We wont need the left and right menu border any more
<1> k
<1> ready
<1> i cropped off all the border made partially transparent
<0> cool
<0> #menu { background: url(/path/to/menuTop.gif) no-repeat; border: 1px solid #333; }
<0> #menu { padding-top: [height of menu top image]; }
<0> #menu .last { background: url(/path/to/menuBottom.gif) bottom center no-repeat; padding-bottom: [height of menu bottom image]; }
<0> kill #mright, #mleft and #mbottom in css and html
<1> damn photoshop is locking up on me
<1> done, but i will have to tweak those values later
<0> wow. where did that height suddenly come from
<1> sorry
<1> i messed it up
<1> i used width value instead of height
<1> done
<0> kill #mright, #mleft and #mbottom in css and html
<1> just did
<0> you still have mright and mleft
<10> could someone please tell me an easy to tell difference between strict / quirks mode in IE 5.5? the box model is broken in both modes for 5.x as you probably know. any help appreciated
<0> suv4x4: There is no strict mode in IE5.5
<1> done
<1> sorry
<1> i just took out the images from the html
<10> Munter, hi, I had the impression there is? But the differences are a lot less (for ex. as I said the box model is broken in both)
<0> cheney: You need to close the tags properly. Right now you have nested all your list items inside a list item. They must be inside the list itself
<1> sorry, i did not see the nested li tags
<10> Munter, maybe I'm wrong, I don't see 5.x referenced in the DOCTYPe switch tables around the net (except Mac IE 5.x but yea..), thanks.
<1> i am using cfincludes so my am altering many different files at once in what appears to be a single page
<0> I know :)
<1> i am going to miss coldfusion when i go to my new job
<10> cheney, how does coldfusion perform?
<0> I bet you will have something better
<1> coldfusion is absolutely incredible
<10> cheney, btw, i have a similar framework I wrote in PHP. Basically it's a bunch of very smart tags that get compiled and cached as a PHP code behind the scenes
<1> it has a tag mode, a script mode, and a cfml language that can all be used together
<10> cheney, when you can't beat it (PHP prevalence) join it :)
<0> #menu { top: 200px; }
<10> cheney, just like my framework :D hehe
<0> so we can see whats goin on :)
<0> add cl***="last" to #contact in the html
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