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<0> l2s: you're confusing CSS and HTML
<0> l2s: you need some way to identify that anchor...
<1> trying to figure out what to put in the html vs what to put in the css
<0> or all the elements you want to apply this style to
<1> ok
<0> is it just the one anchor?
<1> All i want to change is the color of the 4 items in the footer
<1> that are links
<0> 4.. ok
<1> right now its taking the color i set for the normal <p> tag
<0> are they the _only_ links in the footer?
<2> RTFS: not sure what that's telling me
<1> and a href
<1> yes
<0> as in, do you want to change ALL the anchors in the footer?
<1> all the links in the footer i want teh same color but different from teh body
<1> yes
<0> does the footer have an ID?
<1> <div id="footer">
<0> #footer a { color: black; }
<1> you want me to paste the html somewhere?
<0> no
<1> didnt seem to work
<0> obviously, adjust the styles to suit
<1> #footer {
<1> background-color: #134bb7;
<1> font-size: 1 em;
<1> color: #FFFFFF;
<1> text-align: center;
<1> a: color: black;
<1> }
<3> heh..
<3> you are doing it wrong
<1> that part i got :)
<3> remove a: color: black;
<1> sorry im a bit new to this
<3> then go to a new line
<3> and put #footer a { color: black; }
<1> aha
<3> it should then work and i suggest you go here to learn some more about css: http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_intro.asp
<1> now it worked
<4> boom!
<4> w3shools--
<1> sjoerd__ thats where i am
<1> im doing the tutorials
<1> and got a bit lost
<3> that's ok just keep going :)
<1> had most of it working other than overriding parts
<1> one last q you dont have to tell me how to do it, but if you wanted a logo in the upper left and then text justified right on the other side of the page at about teh same level, wiht a table you would split it up into multiple cells
<1> i ***ume you can do it in css as well?
<3> yes use divs
<1> cool, i got a header footer and some part of a body heh
<1> now need a logo above the thing
<3> look for float and text-align
<1> great thanks
<4> `float tutorial @ l2s
<5> l2s, float tutorial: http://css.maxdesign.com.au/floatutorial/ , http://phrogz.net/css/understandingfloats.html
<1> its getting there slowly
<1> only 9 hours to get this far lol
<4> l2s, I've learned enough to help some people out in here in about 12 hours ^_^...
<1> smarter than i am
<3> http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_syntax.asp <- this is an important part of the tutorial
<1> im going straight through
<4> l2s, maybe so... I have pretty high IQ
<1> but was toying with this and gost lost
<3> ghostssss aaaahhhhhhhhhh
<1> have you seen this oddity that with a footer it leaves space on the left and right without it being specified
<1> its supposed to go all the way across but doesnt
<1> leaves a tiny gap on both sides
<3> margin: 0; padding: 0;
<3> on the footer.
<4> l2s, I suggest you include this at the top of every CSS file you make: * {border:0;padding:0;margin:0}
<1> ah ok
<4> l2s, as for "going across but doesn't"
<4> `css display @ l2s
<5> l2s, css display: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#propdef-display
<1> the one concept i was having trouble understanding is when you keep things in #footer {
<1> and when as mentioned before use this #footer a { color: white; }
<1> outside of it
<1> that make any sense?
<3> important hint, if you have trouble, put borders around things
<3> border: 1px solid red; etc.
<4> Sjoerd__, eh.. that's not a good hint!
<4> `box @ l2s
<4> `css box @ l2s
<5> l2s, css box: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/box.html
<4> `css box @ Sjoerd__
<5> Sjoerd__, css box: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/box.html
<3> i know the box model, how is it not a good hint?
<4> l2s, what do you mean?
<1> pastebin crashed
<4> Sjoerd__, well if your margins are the "trouble" making a border won't show it
<1> is there another site to paste to so i can show you
<4> l2s, http://sial.org/pbot/perl/ ..make sure you put channel to 'none'
<3> Zoffix: I make use of it often, I know a lot of others do it as well ;)
<1> http://sial.org/pbot/19679
<4> Sjoerd__, oh well... as they say "Everybody jerks off their own way"
<4> Sjoerd__, personally I never used that
<1> note the three #footer {
<4> l2s, and get a free account somewhere... it's much easier to fix your problem when you have a link to the actual page instead of the pastbin.. .. http://freehostia.com offers some nice add-free accoutns
<4> s/accoutns/accounts/;
<1> k
<3> l2s: Or set up your own server :)
<1> didnt want you to fix it for me, just wanted to understand what im not getting from the tutorial site
<1> i.e. what can go in the first #footer and why i need the other for the border padding etc, even though it didnt work
<4> l2s, code is fine.. just put #footer and another #footer together as to avoid later confusion..... #footer a {} means <a> inside #footer
<4> l2s, and #footer, a {} means #footer AND <a>.... did you read that page on selectors?? I bet you didn't ^_^
<1> i did before but not after, was trying to understand exactly what i was reading
<1> if that makes any sense
<1> conceptually
<4> l2s, what exactly are you reading?
<1> right now your post #footer {border:0;padding:0;margin:0;}
<1> trying to figure out why that didnt make it flush with the page
<1> edges
<4> ==/ no... it wasn't #footer {} it was * {} RTFS man
<4> `css selectors @ l2s
<5> l2s, css selectors: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/selector.html
<1> that would do everything
<1> i just wanted just hte footer
<4> l2s, that's the point...
<4> `css specificy @ l2s
<3> it's on body now
<4> Sjoerd__, * is NOT body.. if that's what you mean
<3> no the margin/padding he is having trouble with are on the body
<1> so basically since i didnt set the body to 0 0 0
<1> it wont go flush
<1> ?
<3> you can either use Zoffix method, or put it on body
<1> ok
<1> that did everything
<3> very good :)
<1> thanks i will play with the rest now
<1> appreciate all the advice
<3> make sure you read about the selectors and box model
<1> yea im getting there slowly :)
<4> l2s, hm.. I can't find a link but you need to read about "specificy"...
<4> `specificy
<4> hm... what was it =/
<1> i will find it
<4> oh...
<4> `css cascade @ l2s
<5> l2s, css cascade: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/cascade.html#cascade
<1> if you guys are on a mac
<1> i found a nice program that helps a lot with syntax if you want it
<1> the url that is
<0> what's it called?
<1> style master
<1> for os x
<3> I only eat apples
<3> and sometimes i go the the mac, although it has been a while
<1> might be too simple for you guys
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