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<ptley> I like that book because it has screen shots of websites making stupid *** design mistakes
<Rprp> Well, does someone know how to fix this: http://82.73.215.127/Schermafdruk.png with CSS/HTML or something?
<ptley> like ibm uses a checkbox that says "do not send me email about..." which is followed by a checkbox that says "please send me email about..."
<ptley> so what happens if you click both checkboxes?
<mlingo> Rprp: what are you trying to fix?
<mlingo> ptley: are you sure it's not a radio button?
<Rprp> Ummh.. ? I dont want that lame scrollbalk,,, i want that scrollballk in the right, and not in the middle
<Zoffix> Rprp: are you stupid enough to think that we are psychic and know exactly what your code is and how to fix it?
<ptley> it's not a radio button, that is the point of the screen shot
<Rprp> rofl 0_o :E
<Zoffix> ]secret @ Rprp
<_ZofBot> Rprp, secret: No URL = no help. We are not telepaths, and can't determine the problem (let alone the solution) without playing with the troublesome page. So, give URL, or leave the channel and call 1-900-PSYCHIC. Oh, and good luck. You'll need it.
<mlingo> Rprp: you get that ****ed up scrollbar with a frame
<Zoffix> man, not only he is using frames he has no idea what attributes they have >_<
<Rprp> Well, but how can i make it without a frame?
<Zoffix> Rprp: how is it a CSS issue?
<mlingo> Rprp: how can you make what?
<Zoffix> ]frames @ Rprp
<_ZofBot> Rprp, frames: http://dorward.me.uk/www/frames/ , http://xrl.us/ig2u
<Zoffix> Rprp: stop being retarded and read those link that I have pointed you to before. That's your damn solution.
<Rprp> hmm
<mlingo> Rprp: people are just gonna get pissed in here if you ask for help with frames
<mlingo> bye, Zoffix
<Rprp> hehe, i saw :E
<Savant2k6> hi there
<mlingo> hi!
<mlingo> Savant2k6: you know it's 2007 now, rigiht?
<mlingo> buh-dmm ksssh!
<Savant2k6> can somebody tell me, why IE6 and Firefox2.x make a difference in font size althoug i set a fixed px-size für the font?
<Savant2k6> mlingo: yep. needa change that some time ^^
<mlingo> Savant2k6: because IE is retarded
<Savant2k6> i know
<Inferus> Hey all, i'm trying to do a column layout, can anyone tell me why when i use 'float' it seems to break out of the containing div please?
<Savant2k6> but my boss uses it... so i guess i better not show him what IE6 makes of what i did
<mlingo> Inferus: vertically? add overflow: auto; to the containing div
<Inferus> mlingo no different :S
<Inferus> oh wait
<mlingo> works?
<Savant2k6> how can i set a _fixed_ font size, that both browser will accept?
<Inferus> nope
<Inferus> :S
<Inferus> mlingo 2 mins i'll upload the page
<mlingo> Inferus: okay
<mlingo> Savant2k6: i set the inital font size in %, and then change it with ex's for the specific divs
<mlingo> 76% is generally good, i've heard
<Savant2k6> hm. gonna try that. one sec
<mlingo> html { font-size: 76%; } body { font-size: 2ex; }
<mlingo> is what i have
<Inferus> mlingo: www.inferus.myby.co.uk/cssdesign/1.html
<mlingo> Savant2k6: http://test.mlingojones.com/ (it'll give you text at the size of the navbar stuff)
<mlingo> Inferus: ???
<Inferus> the boxes dont span right the way across
<Inferus> 2 mins
<Inferus> mlingo refresh
<mlingo> Inferus: I see "content for new div tag goes here" a couple of times
<Inferus> mlingo look now
<dazjorz> I'm having problems putting the text on the right in the top div in http://fpanel.dazjorz.com/home/
<dazjorz> @http://fpanel.dazjorz.com/home/
<Inferus> mlingo, the top bar is right the way across, the others arent
<_ZofBot> (fpanel.dazjor...) HTML: E: 14 ( http://tinyurl.com/ydd4ab ) CSS: N/A ( http://tinyurl.com/ufufq ) DOCTYPE: XHTML 1.0 Trans + url
<mlingo> dazjorz: text-align: right doesn't work?
<dazjorz> I mean
<dazjorz> Putting the text on the right, in the vertical middle
<mlingo> oh, yeah... that's a problem with floating
<mlingo> dazjorz: zoffix.com; check the vertical centering guide
<dazjorz> mlingo: Did, it works if the text is only one line, but not if it's multiple lines
<kioto> hei dudes
<mlingo> Inferus: float the right one to the right, give left and right margins to the middle one, and right margins to the left one
<mlingo> and widths to all
<Inferus> huh?
<Inferus> 'margins' to the middle one?
<kioto> www.digitpoint.it/digit/ on this page if i don't use two breakers to break the line
<mlingo> dazjorz: NO!!! NOT valign=middle. put vertical-align: middle; in the css
<mlingo> Inferus: center it with left and right margins
<kioto> i canno mantain the alignment of the image on the left hand
<dazjorz> mlingo: I know. -_-
<Inferus> *confused*
<dazjorz> mlingo: It didn't work.
<Inferus> <- beginner at css layouts
<dazjorz> mlingo: This doesn't work either.
<kioto> in this moment i have try with two <br />
<kioto> what is the alternative for my scope
<dazjorz> @http://fpanel.dazjorz.com/home/
<_ZofBot> (fpanel.dazjor...) HTML: Valid ( http://tinyurl.com/ydd4ab ) CSS: Valid ( http://tinyurl.com/ufufq ) DOCTYPE: XHTML 1.0 Trans + url
<dazjorz> Valid, valid
<mlingo> Inferus: i'm sorry, I have to go
<mlingo> if you're still online later i'll help you then
<mlingo> goodbye, everyone
<Inferus> kk thanks
<Inferus> see ya
<dazjorz> So
<dazjorz> I need to put that text in the vertical middle, and the link on Zoffix didn't work for more than one line ...
<dazjorz> Oh well, I'll just keep it like this, it's not that important
<Zoffix> dazjorz: dude. read the damn page. it's not just for one line
<Zoffix> ****. can people get any more blind? "can I put CCs into the CSS" man, how many times I've heard that and it says right there in the tut.
<Inferus> Anyone have any good links for learning css layouts please?
<Zoffix> ]schools @ Inferus
<_ZofBot> Inferus, schools: Explore the intricacies of HTML and CSS here: www.blooberry.com/ , www.htmlhelp.com/ , http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ , www.brainjar.com/ , www.htmldog.com/ , http://css.maxdesign.com.au/
<dazjorz> Zoffix: I did, it didn't work and I'm a bit scared to put in all these workarounds just for IE :/
<Inferus> Zoffix: thanks
<Zoffix> dazjorz: heh
<kioto> ok i have solved in this way
<kioto> www.digitpoint.it, i have used the br to break the line to avoid that the image start into the first paragraph
<kioto> can you think about ?
<dazjorz> Zoffix: Do you see the page, http://fpanel.dazjorz.com/home/ ? The top div contains the div that contains the image, and fPanelLoggedIn which contains the text...
<dazjorz> Zoffix: "How about a paragraph?" on your page; I put the position: relative in the fPanelLoggedIn and height: 60px too; and made a fPanelLoggedInText with position: absolute; top: 50%; margin-top: -30px; height: 60px;
<Zoffix> dazjorz: I think the question is "WHY that image is in the div?"
<dazjorz> Zoffix: That doesn't work
<dazjorz> Zoffix: That image is in another div, I don't need to change that
<Zoffix> Why do you people always come up with **** load of useless element?
<Zoffix> s
<dazjorz> ?
<dazjorz> Zoffix: Why ?
<Zoffix> dazjorz: yeah, exactly why is your image in a separate div named #fpanelLogo
<Zoffix> dazjorz: looks pretty centered to me, and BTW I see you set height on those divs in PX, so just letting you know that you page will look completely different in IE and others.
<seb-> if one was being nit picky about MVC...would jpegs be considered part of your model, view or controller?
<Zoffix> seb-: wrong channel?
<dazjorz> Zoffix: Because I want the image to be in the left and the text in the right and I don't want to use a table with 1 row and 2 cells to do that -_-
<Inferus> float? :S
<Zoffix> dazjorz: ah, so you are just ignorant.
<Zoffix> dazjorz: ok remove that image from its container, and tell me when you upload the changes.
<dazjorz> Zoffix: ?
<dazjorz> Heh. Upload.
<dazjorz> s/upload/change using ssh/
<Zoffix> :)
<dazjorz> Commented out the image now
<Inferus> dazjorz why dont you just give the image its own id
<Inferus> rather than a container
<Zoffix> dazjorz: why image? :/
<dazjorz> Zoffix: "Remove that image from its container"
<dazjorz> So I commented out the image.
<Zoffix> dazjorz: ah :) guess you can put it two way :) I ment ditch that container that the image is in.
<dazjorz> ah
<dazjorz> but keep the image
<Zoffix> yeah.
<dazjorz> Done
<Zoffix> dazjorz: ok, so you want your image to be centered vertically?
<Zoffix> dazjorz: I mean, it _is_ right now :S
<Zoffix> since there is no room
<dazjorz> Zoffix: No, I want the text to be centered vertically
<Zoffix> ah
<dazjorz> Zoffix: I didn't say image :P
<Zoffix> ok
<Zoffix> 1 sec :)
<dazjorz> Zoffix: Look at what removing the container did to the text? :P
<Zoffix> dazjorz: well div#fPanel img{float: left;} fixes it :)
<Zoffix> 1 sec someone is coming to my apartment, just got a buzzer
<Zoffix> brb
<dazjorz> Zoffix: That didn't fix it :/


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