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<0> (www.tommoulae...) HTML: Valid ( http://tinyurl.com/yk4yfb ) CSS: N/A ( http://tinyurl.com/yxm43m ) DOCTYPE: XHTML 1.0 Trans + url
<0> dazjorz, css box: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/box.html
<1> dazjorz: why are you defining 100% width?
<2> Zoffix: I had it on 95%, but noticed that was too small, 100% makes it fill almost the whole screen except for about 5 pixels at all sides which is what I want
<3> zoffix so I can use a styleswitcher in the future ;-)
<1> dazjorz: do you have a link to that page?
<2> Zoffix: http://fpanel.dazjorz.com
<1> twenty18: I have no idea what you are talking about
<4> twenty18: was that directed to me?
<3> zoffix look at http://www.tm-graphix.be
<2> w3.org doesn't answer :/
<2> "takes too long to connect"
<5> twenty18: you know what I found to be good for style switcher? making a separate css file for colors, layout, fonts, lists, forms, and tables
<3> the complete navigation is graphic rollover based on css
<1> dazjorz: which one is it? #fPanel or #icons?
<3> and I wanted to use the same thing on this site
<2> Zoffix: #window, #windowcontent and #windowhead
<2> Zoffix: Check the site
<4> twenty18: that's table-based
<3> mlingo no it isn't
<1> twenty18: form a complete sentence. I am just telling you why you are being ignored. No one wants to bother making sense of what you are saying.
<3> I made it myself
<5> twenty18: a hint, meta keyword stuffing will bring your page rank down on everything besides msn
<4> twenty18: clarification: the layout of your portfolio page is, r
<1> dazjorz: I don't see those divs there, do I need to click somewhere?
<4> twenty18: er, your portfolio page is
<2> Zoffix: Oh, sorry, http://fpanel.dazjorz.com/temp/
<3> mlingo yes that is
<3> but the others aren't table based
<4> anyway, why did you link us there?
<3> I had did use tables for the portfolio because IE was letting me down
<1> ptley: really? Google didn't index anything but index.shtml before I've put those keyword metas and yahoo displays the search results with those metas right under your link :/
<3> mlingo because the graphic rollovers work over there
<3> and the don't work for http://www.tommoulaert.be
<1> dazjorz: just remove the width from #windowcontent and #windowhead isn't that what you want?
<4> twenty18: graphics rollovers where?
<1> ]zip @ dazjorz
<0> dazjorz, Start every stylesheet with this: * { margin: 0; padding: 0; }. You'll save yourself the confusion over quite a few strange element and browser spacing differences later on. * == http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/selector.html#universal-selector
<5> Zoffix: well you aren't exactly stuffing in irrelavent keywords
<1> ah :)
<2> Oh, okay :)
<6> !v www.omerc.net
<6> !v http://www.omerc.net
<4> ptley: no... she's no. by the way, you spelled "irrelevant" incorrectly. (if you're gonna be like that, then i am too)
<5> mlingo: yea I see I did that
<4> anyway, she's not stuffing in random keywords
<3> mlingo the sole graphic element on the site (for the moment) should be clickable and return you to the homepage
<7> Hi, can someon me help please, -See this screen: http://82.73.215.127/Schermafdruk.png in the <iframe doesnt height'100%' work. :(
<1> Whoa! I was damn right. **** I am psychic
<4> twenty18: whoa... you're right
<4> Zoffix: nice call
<4> Rprp: DONT USE FRAMES
<1> <1> nah, it's just everyday people ask the same question on a daily basis :) everyday same questions, tomorrow different question but everybody is asking it. Watch today everybody will be asking about iframes :)
<7> hmm
<7> I dont know a other option than a frame
<7> :p
<1> ]frames @ Rprp
<0> Rprp, frames: http://dorward.me.uk/www/frames/ , http://xrl.us/ig2u
<7> <iframe src="home.php" name="mainFrame" style="position: relative; top: 0;" width=95% align="center" frameborder=0 height=1000 target="MainFrame">
<1> heh
<7> with 1000 i see that lame scrollbalk, but 100% isnt working
<1> heh
<7> with 100% i see nothing/ "E
<4> Rprp: this isn't #html
<1> exactly
<4> either way, take that damn frame off your page
<7> rofl
<7> Noboyd is answering in #html :X
<7> 0.o
<4> the people in there should know all about frames
<1> oh ****
<1> What date is it today?
<4> seriously, take it out, use CSS
<4> Zoffix: january 14h, 2007
<1> nm, I got it on my site
<5> 14th of January
<4> build a function into zofbot for it
<1> pheew :) I went to my bank site and I see "Jan 15th ---- blah blah pay---" :) so I thought that my computer clock screwed up and I missed work :)
<5> I like frame sites, when you redo them you don't have to keep the same page names since nobody ever links to those
<1> mlingo: I have it on the index page on my site, since building it into _ZofBot doesn't feel reliable to me :)
<2> How do I make a div fill 100% minus 10px ?
<1> ptley: huh?
<2> can I do margin-left and margin-right and let it do the width automatically ?
<1> ptley: you are so mistaken
<2> margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 5px; width: auto; /* for example */
<5> Zoffix: people link to frames in frame sites?
<4> dazjorz: why are you trying to get 100% width?
<5> I dunno, I am supposed to redo one pretty soon and the only thing that shows up on good is the meta description tag and the title of the index page.
<1> ptley: ever tried to bookmark a framed site? ever tried to print it? ever tried to use a screen reader on it?
<2> mlingo: Because I want the div to fill the screen minus the two margins at the left and the right ?
<1> dazjorz: yes, width: auto; is the default BTW.
<5> Zoffix: I'm not saying I _like_ frame sites, they are just flexible to overhaul
<1> ptley: I don't get you. :/ how are they flexible?
<2> Zoffix: Ok, thanks
<5> Zoffix: crappy sites done with crappy filenames, I have to keep the filenames to preserve all the links from other sites
<4> dazjors: if you only want like 5px on each side, try width: 95%; margin: 0 auto;
<5> Zoffix: but with frames, nobody ever links to them, so I can throw out their crappy filenames
<1> ptley: :/ I still don't get what you are saying.
<4> ptley's talkin' crazy
<5> man it's early, I'll have some tea or something
<1> ptley: so it's not "nobody ever links them" it's "nobody CAN link them" and what you are describing can be done with one line in .htaccess
<1> I used SSI on my site for the menu and the <head> section, this way if I add a link to the menu or an extra stylesheet I need to edit only one file.
<1> It's not 1990 anymore, people!
<3> Ok, I'm back
<3> stupid network
<8> twenty18: div#head h1 a { display: block; height: 100%; width: 100%; }
<6> is it possible to force input language on a textarea/text input?
<5> Zoffix: one line in .htaccess?
<3> vice-versa
<3> tnx
<3> of course
<3> I have to put it as background for the anchor
<3> stupid me
<1> <5> Zoffix: crappy sites done with crappy filenames, I have to keep the filenames to preserve all the links from other sites
<5> Zoffix: oh man, you mean there is some braindead way of avoiding that?
<1> avoiding what?
<4> Zoffix: what CMS do you use?
<1> mlingo: my brain
<4> ah
<1> _ZofBot is about to get a very ***y page soon :)
<4> yay for ZofBot!
<1> :)
<5> Zoffix: thank you so much!
<1> ptley: ??????
<1> ]htaccess @ ptley
<0> ptley, htaccess: http://www.javascriptkit.com/howto/htaccess.shtml
<5> Zoffix: yea I'm already implementing it.
<1> LOL: <metio> is there a pirated site that ahs the newest version of linux http://bash.org/?653
<4> rofl
<5> well he did say a "pirated site"
<1> :))))))))
<5> so that could be some website taken over by evil linux hackers distributing isos to people who don't know how to use bittorrent
<9> hi Zoffix :)
<1> hi
<4> Zoffix: now that the frame-asking dude is gone, what stupid thing will someone ask for help with next?
<1> mlingo: today is "height 100%" or "point me to ]css box" kind of questions day. With questions about frame sizing/styling questions in between
<1> You watch :)
<4> that would be really really really really funny
<1> hehe :)
<5> if I set my container div to 100%, can I set my iframe height to 100%?
<1> :)
<1> Ok, I'm out of smokes. Let's hope that I can get some cash from that deposit for Jan 15th. Don't want to get raped with credit card cash advance.
<5> I like when people ask good questions, I've learned more from you all than any css book I've read.
<4> ptley: you but books?
<4> **buy
<5> no, I check them out of the library
<5> I did buy "access by design" but that is a good book
<4> if i bought a book, i'd probably buy one of dan cederholm's
<5> I like that book because it has screen shots of websites making stupid *** design mistakes
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