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<0> nps
<0> google firefox webdev bar
<0> and install that
<1> downloading now
<0> good
<0> i use one feature on that webdev bar alot
<2> Thanks for reminding me Denvull, I had that but had to reinstall and forgot to reinstall that
<1> thank you
<0> Outline - Outline block level elements
<0> shows you what all your divs are doing
<1> which is perfect
<3> vice-versa: thanks: [00:25:12] <5> [-31310-]: position: absolute; top: 0; right: 0;
<2> I feel bad
<2> I just ran a speed report on my page
<2> Takes 155.8 seconds to load on a 56k modem
<2> I'll have to fix that
<0> haha
<0> url?
<2> Can't say that till I finish this website up
<2> I'm going to reduce the quality of some of these images. No need for them to be maximum JPeg
<0> there never is
<0> 60% is fine for jpgs
<4> how do i put an image in the bottom of a div?
<2> Well, I was looking at the individual size of the jpgs, and thought "That's not too much..."
<0> peritus: #someDiv { background: url('img/someimg.jpg') bottom; }
<0> i think
<1> Denvull would it be as simple (just reading a tutorial) as setting the nav bar to float left and the main content to float right - or would that do float (far right)
<0> would be one way
<0> yeah, that'd work
<4> Denvull: it can not be the background
<2> I just realized their combined total 743.99 kb for 7 images
<4> otherwise it was a good idea
<0> peritus: then maybe .someImg { position: absolute; bottom: 0; } for <img cl***="someImg" .. >
<0> but the img will have to be inside a <div> with position: relative i think
<5> yup
<2> Oh
<2> Denvull, I know why the images take up so much space
<0> jpgs @ 100% maybe?
<2> Well, the jpgs are at 100% but not that big in size
<0> if using photoshop, Save-for-web, jpg qualitiy-> High
<2> It's the one GIF I had to test something
<1> Denvull now where are getting somewhere - take a look. Better ?#
<0> ok
<4> Denvull: thanks
<2> It's like 729 kb because I made an animation of this thing to give me different ideas on the look
<2> Haven't taken it down yet as I am still thinking
<0> ikonia: looks like you need to set a background on your container as well
<0> and your footer will need to be .. float: left; clear: both;
<1> Denvull yes, I see
<0> or maybe just clear: both;
<0> might not need to float it
<0> i'm not sure
<6> hi all
<1> Denvull actually the containers background is correct
<1> showing the purple colour
<0> ok
<2> Denvull, after removing my gif, it now takes less than eight seconds to load on 56k :)
<0> congrats
<2> I will go change the JPGs from maximum to high though to optimize it further
<2> I didn't realize how big that stupid GIF was, was just for showing logo ideas to myself, heh
<0> Synktar: and for any images that use less than 256 colours, save them as gifs
<2> How do I check the amount of colors used?
<0> select gif as an option
<0> and it will show you the pallette
<2> I can Google that I suppose
<2> Ah
<0> and if you fill it up
<0> you probably exceed it
<2> Thank you. I never did know when to use one or the other, hehe
<2> I had a general idea, but yeah
<0> generally, jpg for photograph type images .. gif for logos/cartoon type images
<0> google it
<0> "when do i use jpg or gif"
<3> can i make a iframe float?
<2> Yeah, I figured as much, but never knew the 256 colors thing
<2> That means all of my images will go gif then, heh
<3> PNG ftw
<0> heh
<3> can i make a iframe float then?
<0> no idea
<0> try it?
<0> maybe stick it in a <div> and float the div?
<7> Ohh well I didn't find a solution that actually worked .. it's kinda weird .. but I did use the way IE is rendering my divs to an advantage .. now it sticks a div in the middle of teh page with a link to download firefox if you are viewing it in IE ;)
<2> Thanks for reminding me about the webdev toolbar, I'm now exploring all of the tools within it (I only used the live CSS thing before)
<0> KaneElson`: haha .. not good
<1> Denvull sorry - I missed you last comments. My screen refreshed you off
<0> KaneElson`: i think IE treats 100% as the width of your browser window.. regardless of where it is placed
<1> ahhh crap - its also moved the bottom div now to above the rest, I didn't notice thatr
<1> that
<0> ikonia: yeah, which is why i said
<7> denvull, yeah and that is what I want it to do .. but it wont recognise any percentages only px values...
<0> give the footer clear: both;
<0> KaneElson`: url?
<1> Denvull yeah, I missed that. Man there must be a simpler way of controlling div placement
<0> this is pretty simple :)
<1> not for a beginner its not
<1> I see where the problems are
<1> but I'm not understaning why they change randomly, eg: whats caused the bottom div to now jump position into the second div
<7> and dw this page isn't for production or anything .. It's just a personal page. I have to head off but thanks for your help. I might have another crack tommorow when I have had sleep ;)
<0> ikonia: read a tutorial on float
<0> sounds like you really need to
<1> thats exactly what I'm doing now
<0> :)
<0> but yeah, giving "clear: both;" to the footer should fix it
<1> and your damn right I need to, its so not clear in my head
<1> Denvull I'll try that now, but I've no idea what the "clear" property does
<0> it's what makes float so great
<1> fair enough, I'm sure I'll get to it in the turorial
<0> yep
<0> ]clear
<0> ]css clear
<0> %css clear
<0> bah.. i dunno how to work zofbot still
<1> clear: both; didn't fix it
<0> ikonia: give it float: left; as well?
<1> ok
<2> ]`css clear
<2> ]%css clear
<1> nah
<2> Something like that
<1> didn't work
<0> ummm
<0> you have position: absolute;
<0> that's probably why
<1> not to worry though, I'm sure I'll have it covered in the tutorial
<1> ahh remove that
<0> yep
<0> and no need for "bottom: 6px;"
<1> thats more like it !
<1> nice one
<2> That's a plus too, gif supports transparency, heh
<0> Synktar: yep
<0> Synktar: google up "gif vs png"
<0> that's an interesting read
<1> hopefully I'll get what happened there at some point in the tutorial - as I currenly have no idea why that changed it
<2> Denvull, So there's three dots on that color table for giff
<2> gif*
<2> One in the dark gray, one in light gray, and one in white. That would suggest I am fine, yes?
<0> Synktar: if it looks good
<1> must dash, but I'll do some reading on this. Denvull big thanks. You've put me on an interesting track
<2> Ah, duh
<0> ikonia: nps, good luck
<1> totally re-arrange my layout
<1> ;)
<2> Odd
<2> It's saying my GIFs are bigger than my maximum jpgs...
<0> with alot of colours they can be
<6> hei dudes, i try dev an horizontal list
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