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<0> Why do you give bad advice?
<1> loll
<0> `listamatic @ tcpsyn
<2> tcpsyn, listamatic: http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/
<0> `standards @ tcpsyn
<2> tcpsyn, standards: www.w3.org/QA/2002/04/Web-Quality , www.maccaws.org/kit/primer/ , www.webstandards.org/learn/faq/ , www.brainstormsandraves.com/articles/semantics/structure/
<3> Thanks.
<1> b0at, or you could use lists
<3> b0at: thanks, thats really good.
<1> :)
<3> http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/vertical01.htm
<3> in this example it sets active id to the first list item.
<3> why?
<3> If you wanted the active menu item to stand out, wouldn't an active id be necissary on all of the items?
<3> with javascripts to turn them on and off?
<4> other than image size (which I have not yet done) do you guys have any suggestions or hints for the following webite: http://www.flashpoolrecords.com/stealingfrombandits
<5> http://www.flashpoolrecords.com/stealingfrombandits? is that the same as www.robinhood.com?
<4> (warning, the images are rather large atm)
<4> CommandPrompt: not quite, no.
<3> would you guys use <div> instead of <iframe?
<3> or put the iframe inside the div?
<6> they hate iframes
<3> why?
<3> I think they're slick.
<6> because is not recommend I guess
<6> iframes are depricated right?
<3> in favor of what?
<7> I have two divisions set side by side as floating elements in a container #content. I find instances where the two child divisions stretch vertically beyond the container #content-- is this abnormal? I use the container to set the background color since neither of the child divisions stretch the full length of the page.
<7> I was expecting that the two children divisions would stretch #content to fit, but the background gets cut off mid-way so I'm left to ***ume the container div isn't stretching the full distance of its child elements
<8> `frames @ tcpsyn
<2> tcpsyn, frames: http://dorward.me.uk/www/frames/ , http://xrl.us/ig2u
<8> iframes are not deprecated, they're just stupid
<9> Why exactly does the margin on the <h1> is not applied inside the borders of the parent div?
<9> http://65.94.231.189/webdev/index.html
<9> its like its applied compared to body instead of the parent div... i dunno.. i dont understand the behavior
<10> how can I create something that is no smaller than something like 790
<10> but not bigger than 2000
<3> hawkaloogie: why are iframes stupid.
<3> hawkaloogie: and is there something else that can acomplish the same task?
<8> there's a link i just gave you
<8> tcpsyn, yes, also on the link i just gave you
<3> ahh.
<3> Thanks.
<3> Sorry, didn't see it
<8> MattKelly, max-height/width, min-height/width, height/width; doesn't work on IE
<9> Anyone? It's a simple question...
<10> oh
<10> ok thanks
<8> mr_hus, one, have some dog-gamned patience, two what the heck are you describing?
<8> because i don't see it
<9> sorry sorry..
<6> :S
<8> i see an h1 that has a 1em gap between body's border and its own black background
<9> but that white space is created because of a margin on h1
<8> yes
<9> but i dont understand why it's not applied compared to the div containing the h1
<9> shouldn't the margin be inside the dark blue box
<9> understand what I mean?
<8> yes, let me find the explanation
<9> i know i could use padding instead...
<9> but i'd like to understand.. its not the first time i stumble on this
<8> it appears to be something about collapsing margins, at least it is the only thing that could explain this behavior
<8> nevermind, i have no idea. i just fix things
<9> yeah well i dunno.. it almost looks like a bug..
<10> thanks
<3> I can't realistically see not using an iframe.
<3> I want to p*** variables from the links on the navigation bar into something for processing.
<7> What's the best approach if I want to set a minimum-height to a division block?
<3> Its easy to send them over $_GET into an iframe.
<3> I couldn't send something over $_GET into a div tag, could I?
<7> I realize min-height support is lacking among browsers. Is there a more standard solution?
<7> I have a division block with a background image and if I leave the division to size itself, the image is cut off... So I'm looking to give the element a minimum height that will work for IE/Firefox/Safari. Do I need to individually address each browser or is there another technique?
<7> Should I just create an unnoticable prop with the desired height to define the min-height?
<5> ahemm
<5> is not lacking, is not rendered in IE6
<5> :P~
<5> `ie minmax @ pacal
<2> pacal, ie minmax: www.doxdesk.com/software/js/minmax.htm
<3> someone in php hooked me up with a great idea.
<7> hey thx! :)
<5> tcpsyn: come again?
<5> tcpsyn: you need to do what?
<3> I was trying to figure out how to get rid of my iframe and use my php logic inside a div.
<5> why?
<5> :)
<3> from my navigation bar, I can have each link call index.php, and p*** an appropriate $_GET variable.
<3> I was having each link p*** a $_GET variable into a main.php file that formulated my querys and what not.
<5> .
<5> and main.php?something was ending up in a non-visible iframe, right?
<5> and from there back out to the parent document as output?
<3> noob-saibot, it was a visible iframe.
<3> er.
<3> Sorry that was for command:
<7> CommandPrompt: I think I prefer the proping idea
<5> proping?
<7> oops, guess more has happened since my min-height inquiry ;p
<3> the iframe processed the sql and displayed the content.
<5> tcpsyn: but this is a request to the server for output purposes, right?
<7> proping open a division block with a unnoticable division cl*** with some fixed height.
<5> without reloading the page
<5> ahemm
<5> pacal: well, the bgimage auto sizing only will work IF the bgimage varies, if it's static, yes, of course, give the Div certain size, though min-height/min-width do work
<5> pacal: just use an IE conditional for IE and for it use height/width, which in IE act more or less like min
<7> oooh ok
<3> CommandPrompt: someone clicks on "guitar links" which sends the variable "gutarlinks" to the iframe, which then sets up a query to select * from table where content like "guitarlinks" and then it ran through the output and made a table with all the links.
<5> `ie cc @ pacal
<2> pacal, ie cc: http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/overview/ccomment_ovw.asp , http://www.quirksmode.org/css/condcom.html
<7> thx buddy
<5> tcpsyn: without reserving the page, right?
<5> .
<5> so, I gather the iframe is the one with the guitarlinks table
<3> the iframe would load main.php
<3> and main.php would display whatever it had to based on what was clicked.
<3> I can just reload index.php with the same logic... and have stuff dynamically placed in divs instead of tables.
<3> or I hope so anyway, thats what I'm going to dry.
<3> try.
<5> heheh
<5> tcpsyn: ever used Ajax for doing your laundry?
<3> no. I dont know what ajax is
<5> heheh
<3> just simple php
<5> do you know php well?
<3> well enough to generally make it do what I want.
<5> well
<3> But generally in some strange inefficient way.
<5> do you know javascript?
<3> only enough to make rollovers and alert boxes
<5> heh
<5> tcpsyn: do you have a network traffic monitor?
<5> so, you can see network traffic going UP or Down?
<3> yes.
<3> what are you getting at?
<5> tcpsyn: http://www.hardwarestore.com/media/product/101849_front200.jpg
<5> hehe, anyhow, after all the Q :)
<5> tcpsyn: http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=1
<5> tcpsyn: try typing something there, and if you have a network monitor, check it when typing in
<3> yeah.. Thats going to be a huge learning curve.
<5> that's using Asynchronous Javascript And XML
<5> A.J.A.X
<5> hehhe
<3> its cool. But I don't know if I want to take the time to invest into learning it.
<5> tcpsyn: the results are actually an sql result off a querystring fetched by js, and put together in the Div you see under the Input box :)
<3> google are insane.
<5> well
<5> there are some premade asynchronous stuff
<5> Prototype seems to be a premade set used by many with good material/use
<5> tcpsyn: which more or less is what you're trying to do, query the server for a response, get the response result, and output it without reloading the page, IN the page
<3> indeed.
<5> as I said, you could google around some for some sets
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