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<0> yet I have IE
<1> looks fine to me
<2> ok
<3> I'm trying to center a DIV (position:absolute) in IE and it is still off-center. Here is my style information: "position: absolute; left: 50%; margin-left: -25%;" Any help?
<3> The guides I've found through google say that this should center in IE
<3> But, it's not :(
<4> why are you using positioning?
<4> just use the page flow
<4> margin: 0 auto;
<0> SkramX: http://reisio.com/temp/skramx.png
<2> reisio: any suggestions?
<2> `css shading
<0> looks fine to me



<3> Munter: Because I want this to be a overlapping DIV. It is initially hidden, press a button, there it is.
<0> what's your OS?
<2> i dont like the colors, but the client wants it.. well, im doing it for free
<2> reisio: me? I am on gentoo right now
<2> i have macosx at home, where i can run windows
<0> SkramX: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/
<4> crzygrndpa: ok. Does it have a width?
<3> Munter: no defined width, it has content
<4> crzygrndpa: you need a defined width to center it with positioning.
<2> reisio: okay
<2> thanks
<4> set a width, and set a negative margin of half the width
<3> Munter: I'll give that a shot. Thanks
<5> I have a span and I am trying to align a div to the right
<5> any ideas ?
<5> rather a span in a div
<2> !v http://epg.mark-s.net/concept02c/
<6> HTML: Valid - http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://epg.mark-s.net/concept02c/
<6> CSS: Valid - Warnings: 20, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://epg.mark-s.net/concept02c/
<2> thanks, RTFS !
<0> CanonP: huh?
<5> I have a div, within it I have a bit of text and a a span of links, I want to align that span of links to the right
<0> float: right;
<5> but then it hover outside the div
<0> outside?
<5> or over
<5> yeah
<0> over?
<5> as in the div has a certain height
<0> `float contain @ CanonP
<6> CanonP, float contain: www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html , www.quirksmode.org/css/clearing.html , www.complexspiral.com/publications/containing-floats/
<5> it is not aligned with the previous text and is hovering over the border
<7> can a have the psudeo element :first-letter?
<0> you can use it, yes
<7> its not working for me
<0> what browser?
<7> FF
<0> mmm, should be working
<0> what's your code?
<0> http://webdevout.net/browser_support/:first-letter/
<7> http://207.235.116.177/riyonuk4.css
<7> its under navigation
<7> lol, what kinda site is that? nothings on that site
<7> its just white
<0> should've been /css/first-letter/
<0> http://webdevout.net/browser_support/css/first-letter/ :)
<8> hi css. when im defining attributes for a specific element, how do i override the normal a.visited/unvisited/hover for only that element
<0> element a:hover { ?
<7> reisio: how come when I went that that wrong url, it didnt say like an error
<0> Riyonuk: because Nanobot didn't set anything like that up
<8> reisio, ok...ill try that. before i had element:a:hover



<7> alright, well it says FF has it
<7> but why is it not working?
<0> !v http://207.235.116.177/
<6> HTML: Valid - http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://207.235.116.177/
<0> `selectoracle @ teimu
<0> `select oracle @ teimu
<6> CSS: Valid - Warnings: 8, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://207.235.116.177/
<6> teimu, selectoracle: http://gallery.theopalgroup.com/selectoracle/
<0> lag :p
<7> dial-up does that
<8> i got it! thanks fellas
<7> and can I make the first-letter the hover property?
<9> won't work in IE
<7> doesnt matter
<7> Im willing to sacrifice that
<9> technically, yes, you can have multiple psuedocl***es
<0> Riyonuk: not sure, might try setting the a's to block or something
<9> I cannot say which CSS implementations do it though
<10> :first-letter:hover should do
<11> http://elekchron.org/fdasdfasdfasdfhtttttytsf/ the left/right padding in #content is interferring somehow, when i go over 10px left/right padding, the box with "elekchron.org" in it moves down in IE only, its perfect in FF
<10> well, thats if you want the first letter to be hoverable. If you want the first letter to be different on hover of the whole, :hover:first-letter
<7> meh nothing works
<7> I cant remmber a site that I saw that did what I want to do, the first-letter thing
<7> this is stupid >_>
<12> indeed
<12> anyone want to do this project for me? http://commctrl.com
<12> i'm tired of it
<7> looks kinda hard
<12> not really, more than 30,000 lines already written for you
<12> doesn't matter really, everyone's doing Ruby on Rails or PHP or Java servlets, nobody thinks about poor ol' Perl
<0> hawkaloogie: because "everyone" is a crapload of 13-year-old fanbois :p
<0> the nonfanbois are using Perl :p
<7> actually perl was the first language I was going to learn
<7> I gave up though
<7> http://alistapart.com/articles/accesskeys/ <-- I'm even following that, nothings working
<12> reisio, i honestly think it's because there are few truly decent user experiences in Perl webapps
<12> twiki i tried to install once, didn't get past unzipping the source
<0> eh
<12> using Trac now, written in python if i'm not mistaken
<0> it's probably because the silly fanbois don't know that so many cgi apps are Perl
<0> well Python isn't tooo bad
<12> ruby is a lot like perl, not surprisingly, and i'd pick ruby over python
<12> still can't quite read python. i need my { }
<7> you should add this to the bot
<7> http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/pseudocss.html#first-letter
<0> hawkaloogie: ya, I don't care for the whitespace thing
<12> only boat can add stuff to rtfs last i knew
<7> Im gonna read that
<0> hum
<0> well people that don't put spaces between the selector and { deserver what they get those sick bastards :p
<0> the space before comma thing is lame, though :p
<13> `css3 selectors @ Riyonuk
<6> Riyonuk, css3 selectors: http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/CR-css3-selectors-20011113/
<7> Im reading that now, lol
<7> not helping either
<7> all guides are saying <a> needs to be block and it is
<12> i can't wait until E[href^="http:/"] { /* style external links */ }
<13> hawkaloogie: that could still be an link to the same site :P
<7> ooh that sounds intresting


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