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<0> what do you mean it stretches them
<1> kostodo: IE does that.
<2> thats why for those 2 divs i had to put overflow=hidden
<1> kostodo: Instead of drawing the content outside the element, like the standards say it should, it expands the element.
<1> kostodo: word-wrap: break-word; helps
<2> ok i will try that thanks
<0> kostodo: were you also having issues with showing the gradient images?
<3> !v http://stackedqueens.com/ph/
<4> HTML: Valid - http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://stackedqueens.com/ph/
<4> CSS: Valid - Warning: 1, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://stackedqueens.com/ph/
<2> cronin, no the gradient images show fine
<0> k
<2> its just that the cells seem to expand when i try put the layer inside the divs and then it starts drawing a new gradient
<2> if u know what i mean
<2> Twey, i dont see a property called word-wrap
<2> (i was checking in dreamweaver)



<0> erm, i might be going about this the wrong way.
<0> kostodo.
<0> make the logo div a container of all the frames
<2> yes?
<0> i mean rows
<2> how?
<0> <-- 2 hours of sleep in last 48 hours :)
<2> heh
<0> by moving the <div id="logo"> above all the others
<1> kostodo: It's IE proprietary
<1> Which is OK in this case, since it's only IE that's a problem :-)
<0> then make a background-image:url (image here) then define width and height....
<0> Iam pretty sure that works
<2> so i should still add it, and IE will use it to render?
<2> ok let me try
<0> also, put the body css tag on the top and change its settings to margin: 0 0 0 0; and in the logodiv you can set settings to margin: 0 auto;
<5> cronin: There's no such thing as a "CSS tag". It's called a CSS property.
<0> lol
<0> CSS tag
<6> Given that its the "body", then that would be a selector.
<0> i'll settle with css thing
<2> im not really following what u want me to do
<0> one sec
<0> iam not sure its gonna work but i'll do that paste site
<0> http://rafb.net/paste/results/wohAlf57.html
<2> ok
<2> the bg is not showing when i set the img
<0> ?
<0> for which
<2> logodiv
<0> remove the ../
<2> did
<2> stll
<2> still
<0> something is wrong with the image then
<0> cause thats correct code
<2> hmmm
<7> whats the image url, if you view it in your browser
<2> the image worked before always
<2> its in images/
<0> because it was an <img src="
<2> ok well what does it need to be?
<0> this is now a image inserted through css
<0> as a bg image
<7> are you sure it's a gif?
<7> (only asking because the other three are jpg)
<2> yes
<2> im sure its a gif, ive been using it before by inserting a img src tag
<5> kostodo: src isn't called a "tag", it's called an "attribute".
<2> definitely a gif coz it has a transparent bg
<7> whats the url of the image, and of the page?
<2> the page is not published
<7> so?
<2> i got no webspace at the moment
<7> it still has a URL
<2> my local url?
<7> urls are urls
<2> whats your point?
<7> GIVE IT TO ME
<0> lol
<2> trust me the image is being linked to correctly



<0> we can connect to it
<2> sigh
<7> fine, if you refuse to be helped.
<2> how am i refusing
<2> i dont know what you are asking me for
<0> oops
<7> GIVE ME the URL of the PAGE and the IMAGE as viewed in your browser
<0> kostodo: do background:url (imageurl);
<2> ok one sec
<0> and you should always do ../image/image.gif
<0> at least thats the way I like to do it
<7> why not just do /images/yadda.ext? Well, and get a real webserver to test on
<2> why?
<8> anybody know a lot about white-space and word-break
<0> i dont know, i think it looks better :)
<7> satnone: a lot, eh?
<8> well i got a question
<2> file:///D:/Web/Untitled-1.html
<7> cronin: you know 'images/asdfa' isnt the same as ../images/asdfa right?
<1> Rofl.
<8> i want the sentences in a div to break
<2> file:///D:/Web/images/mainTextLogo.gif
<7> kostodo: alright.
<8> but i dont want the words broken
<8> unless they r longer than the width of the div
<2> Flannel, so what do you make of those urls?
<7> kostodo: that you do indeed have correct links in your page
<2> yes I do
<7> kostodo: explicitly declare background-position and -repeat, see if that helps
<2> ok
<7> satnone: what? so, sentences break, but not words? how is that different than normal breaking?
<8> well im not sure exactly what word to use but i want the sentences to wrap
<7> satnone: you mean you want each sentence to wrap as a single entity?
<8> but if a single word is longer than the width of the div i want the word itself to be broken
<2> Flannel, doesnt help
<8> hmm
<8> umm
<8> do u use any im client?
<8> when u go to type a message
<2> Flannel, have u taken a look at the code?
<8> i want it to behave exactly like that
<7> satnone: er, so... normal stuff? except with breaking up super long words?
<8> yes
<8> basically
<8> i cannot figure it out
<8> right now its just going to the end and then breaking right where its at
<8> so words r being broken up
<7> huh?
<7> what do you have set currently?
<2> Flannel, could it be because the three cells behind my logo cell also have bg images?
<8> cause i have break-all
<7> kostodo: if they're covering it up, or have a background color, yeah, obviously you wouldnt be able to see stuff behind them
<8> but if i use "normal" then a long word will stretch the div
<0> dumb dumb dumb
<8> or go out of it
<0> why did i do that
<8> depending on the browser
<8> stupid IE will stretch
<0> satnone: don't use my snippet
<7> satnone: You don't need to use CSS3,
<0> its wrong
<7> satnone: you need softhyphens in your long words
<8> well i cant do that
<8> say a long url gets put in
<8> its for instant message logging
<0> make <div id="logo"><img src="imagepath" height="" width="" /> and then in css do #logo { position: absolute; top: 20; }
<8> its a miranda template
<2> flannel, would it help if i set all the layers a Zvalue?
<7> kostodo: no. Remove the rest of the divs (set display none) do you see the background?
<8> dont use my snippet?
<8> what do u meen
<0> n/m
<0> did you give a link to connect to the test site?
<7> satnone: really, CSS3 isn't supported yet even. Softhyphens are your best bet... well, except that FF doesn't support them at all. damn FF.


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