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<0> how do I make a SPAN stretch a certain width?
<0> or is that a bad way of doing it?
<1> how to set height of background image? this doesn't work: style="background-image : url({IMAGE_PATH}header_bg.gif); height:100px"
<2> swimrr, display: block; width: 100; and, probably
<3> OK guys
<3> http://www.zentatsu.com Any better? It won't tile like that in the end, but yeah
<0> Alpha: that's what I thought, but its not working for me
<0> does it matter that its in a <p>
<2> CyberMad, you can't see the hieght of a background image, you can only set the height of the element the background belongs to
<4> JediKirby: prefered the font before, looks blurry now
<2> swimrr, not unless you have some defining height restrictions on the <p> defined that are effecting the resulting height of the <span>
<0> Alpha: nope, that's not it
<2> terrible sentance
<0> Alpha: won't block make the text after go below the <span>
<2> yes.
<0> what I want is a word then a space, then other sentances - am I going about this the wrong way?



<0> I thought I could go <span>word</span> next sentance, and just increase the width of the span
<2> a word then a space?
<0> a large space - to space it out
<2> right
<0> I thougth I could use span to space the word on the left, the rest a certain, say 100px, to the right
<2> er
<2> just set the width, without displaying it as a block level image
<5> swimrr, span is not a block element
<0> hmmmm
<5> what are you trying to do with the <span>?
<2> he's trying to do this http://81.108.157.214
<3> It's not a font, daryl-
<0> I have a word that I want to have a certain space after
<3> It's pre-written
<3> I'm making a new portion of text for that area
<0> Alpha: that word is not spaced out in FF
<5> Why not put padding around it?
<2> ok
<0> larrywells: ah....because I hadn't thought of that - i'm used to taking padding out!!!
<0> LOL
<5> do padding 0 5px 0 5px to get even space around the word
<3> daryl-: if you weren't looking, would you notice that I mirrored and chopped up the original image to make a longer one?
<0> larrywells: thanks for the help
<6> what is the @ sign called in english?
<5> np, glad to help and not ask everyone else for help, lol
<2> at?
<0> LOL at Alpha
<7> Jo-W: The at sign.
<2> what? :/
<2> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%40
<4> JediKirby: if I hadn't seen the original, no
<4> well
<4> you can see bits are mirrored
<8> what is the @ sign called in english?
<9> JoWie: at
<8> omg whats the timeout
<6> k
<10> is it possible to make a nav drop down menu without js?
<5> what is the proper way to define a <div>, .cl***name div or div.cl***name
<9> Riyonuk: Yes.
<10> you got an example?
<7> Riyonuk: In decent browsers, at least.
<5> i have been defining it as div.cl***name
<7> Riyonuk: http://alistapart.com/articles/dropdowns/
<7> `selectoracle @ larrywells
<11> larrywells, selectoracle: http://gallery.theopalgroup.com/selectoracle/
<10> ahh thank you
<7> That should clear up any questions about those selectors.
<5> wow RTFS that totally confuses me
<10> not really
<10> you just gotta count right?
<6> yeah its rtfs' fault :P
<10> why would someone want to make there css that complicated?
<6> mine is way more complicated then that
<10> let me see?
<6> i will put it on sourceforge when it reaches stable
<6> its a large project
<10> riczho: http://www.htmldog.com/articles/****erfish/example/ <-- Im looking for that nav, but with the ability to split into more navs
<6> im working on
<6> :)



<10> aww ok
<6> riyonuk, split into more navs as in?
<10> like ocremix.org
<5> .cl***name div does not work for me
<10> how it drops down and then you can have more split off
<6> ah multi levels
<6> multiple*
<10> thats what its called? well I want that
<6> that shouldn't be hard
<7> Riyonuk: Then you'll just have to have to make a change for 2nd level and higher dropdowns.
<7> And you'll also have to find a way to emulate the > selector (maybe via javascript) in IE.
<6> google IE7
<10> no javascript, I dont know it
<7> Neither do I, unfortunately.
<6> its a package which emulates lots of advanced stuff
<7> `ie7
<11> ie7: http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/overview/ (It's not IE version 7. READ.)
<6> like selectors, whatever:hover
<7> I've heard that it's really really slow, though.
<6> yeah i ment that
<6> so?
<10> I have ie6
<6> i could help you if my project was finnished >_>
<12> which project
<13> I'll help you if you pay me, I'm really busy
<12> sorry, im an intruder -_-
<6> lol
<6> riyonuk tried http://www.seoconsultants.com/css/menus/horizontal/
<13> you want a menu?
<13> like http://for.wiw.org/menu.html ?
<13> works in all major browsers, and opera
<3> Hey guys
<3> http://www.zentatsu.com
<3> What do you think of the new text?
<13> it's hideous
<6> what text?
<13> the gang scribble on the left
<3> != gang
<6> oh thats text
<10> thanks
<6> :P
<6> jk
<3> Leave it to a room full of CSS experts to degrade urban forms of art.
<10> XD
<12> wow
<4> JediKirby: I see no text
<6> rofl
<4> just a big red block
<3> that's because I screwed things up
<12> people, do you know how to make transparent stuff in IE using not very complicated scripts ? or some css hack
<13> define stuff
<3> daryl-: look now
<12> cause i use png32 as bg's and works good, but i don't want to apply opacity or whateva on the <div>, cause everything else inside will be transparent
<3> daryl-: See?
<3> daryl-: I'm going back to my broken way, so I can try to fix it. To see the image, look at http://www.zentatsu.com/zenhead.jpg
<3> Why is my header doing that? top: 0;
<3> margin-bottom: 200px;
<3> background-image: url(zenhead.jpg);
<3> GAH! Wrong paste
<3> Why is my header in http://www.zentatsu.com pushing DOWN my #center
<3> it's supposed to be WITHIN the same div
<4> because of the margin-bottom
<4> and that jpg is awful quality
<4> and the previous font was better
<4> that's unreadable
<14> Jo
<14> Ehm..
<14> Hi :D
<4> hi
<3> http://www.zentatsu.com <--- How now, daryl-?
<3> I saved at a much lower compression
<15> JediKirby, redo the image so it meets nicely on both ends and repeat-x it :)
<4> better quality
<4> but it's still unreadable


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