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<0> ptley: is that the same as margin-top : -5em; ?
<1> It seems like it should be an easy thing to fix...but I can't get the <ul> to line up nicely in IE AND have the little o's next to it. If I leave it as a regular <ul> then it has the 3px jog. If I apply the height: 1% fix to it, it gets rid of the jog AND the o's next to the list items.
<2> Tepetkhet: it could be worse. you could have this 67-page website project that the client sent over in all .psd format files and wants you to re-create it in xhtml because that's what their site uses now, and tables-free to boot
<1> ugh...
<2> and then expects it yesterday
<1> WebDragon: Well...
<1> I have no design experience beyond using <br> and <center>...
<2> and then interrupts it to have you spend 12 hours redoing their homepage
<2> and then gets all urgent about the other project
<3> YammYgirleating, i have an example of what im trying to do
<3> well pretty much exactly what im tryin to do
<3> http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/202/202.css&page=0
<1> And my boss gave me some horrible Front Page website to redesign.
<1> So I did.
<2> I'm having to do all the templating with the ***istance of YAML so that I can whip out the repeating template quicker
<1> And I can't get 2 things to look right in IE6.
<2> and then splice in the index, contact, and three master title pages
<1> Only 8 pages here.
<2> Tepetkhet: look for some hints on IE bugs here: http://www.positioniseverything.net/
<1> I did.
<1> And I got them fixed for <p> tags
<2> does it validate ?
<1> Let me check since I've made the changes.
<2> (both css and (x)html)
<2> including fixing the warnings, if you're so inclined
<4> WebDragon: "What is your email address" box goes way over into the next column
<2> hm?
<2> ptley: what site are you talking about?
<1> That's odd.
<4> WebDragon: on the dogfish site... sorry, I suppose that one is supposed to be finished
<2> well it's not mine :)
<2> I was just pointing out the beer I'm currently guzzling
<2> (which is REALLY good, if you like strong ales)
<4> yea I see that now
<4> I need a job where I can get faded all day, dang...
<4> I keep having to answer the phone and be all able to talk to people correctly and stuff
<2> what, it's 5:15 pm here.
<2> I'm eatin dinner and taking a break before getting back into the hard part of the coding
<2> it's coffee-all-day for me until 5
<2> true I work from home, but I DO have a job to do and sure as hell can't do it ****ed up
<5> WebDragon: heh
<2> (much as you NEED to be ****ed up to understand the reasoning behind some of MSIE's problems)
<4> yea I never could code very efficiently inebriated
<2> but that is neither here nor there, unless you use strict
<2> ;)
<4> once I was writing a logistics program faded and I really thought I had done amazing work
<5> faded?
<4> the next morning I realized I was saving timestamps to location columns
<6> ]ping
<7> PONG!
<4> like not crisp and bright, but inebriated... faded
<6> ]]urban dictionary faded
<7> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=faded ( http://tinyurl.com/vdfqv )
<8> youhou
<5> ;slang faded
<9> reisio: http://www.w3.org/2006/03/wn/wn20/src/wn_g.pl
<5> ;define faded
<9> reisio: faded: bleached: having lost freshness or brilliance of color; "sun-bleached deck chairs"; "faded jeans"; "a very pale washed-out blue"; "washy colors" attenuate: reduced in strength; "the faded tones of an old recording"
<6> nope
<8> is it I who's lagged or no one speaks ?
<4> it's like faded jeans, but in the brain sense
<5> figured
<5> do you actually say 'faded' in everyday speech?
<4> yea, I'm from california
<6> reisio: yes
<6> "what's up man?"
<6> "not much.. going down to PB later to get faded"
<5> you california pothead you :p
<5> rich-: singular 'you' :p
<6> reisio: =P
<5> re: do you actually...
<6> no
<6> we usually say it for getting drunk too
<6> ptley: what part of cali?
<4> rich-: northern cali
<5> wow, how versatile :p
<6> sorry dude :/
<4> dude, whatever
<6> lol
<4> I forget people don't use slang in regular speech on the phone sometimes
<6> how do you figure?
<4> someone will be like "I need those data reports emailed over here before 5"
<6> lol
<8> Does someone know a good js to make font-size in percent be relative to its box size ?
<4> and I'll be like "oh that's hella no problem"
<5> heh
<6> or "fosho"
<5> distant: boring
<6> hella no problem lol.. sooo true
<4> yea if it's someone from texas they will be all "what?"
<4> but then they use their slang too, so whatever
<6> they'd be like "thanks, that's hot" cuz you know texas is a year behind in slang and paris made that popular about a year ago
<4> I should start leaving slang in code comments
<4> /* Be careful, this next part affects mad globals */
<1> okay
<6> LOL
<1> I had a couple problems that I fixed with the php includes...
<8> lol, Markup_Maniac has a website in flash.
<1> But it validates now and still looks broke in IE6. :(
<1> http://www.niceboots.com/~tenebrae/test/index.php
<8> why the .: thingy ?
<6> ./* Note from Author: This took me a wicked long time, so.. */
<1> Design choice, I suppose.
<2> rich-: heh
<1> Make the headings stand out a bit without putting another graphic up.
<8> Tepetkhet: make h1.yourcl***:before { content:".:"; } instead... won't work on IE, but at least markup is clean
<2> .: this ∴ that :. looks nice
<2> usually just use 'em in footers, myself
<6> i really hope i don't drop my connection.. they made #freenode-newyears +i
<4> rich-: I'm totally going to use slang in my comments, maybe people will understand me better
<6> ptley: if anything.. definitely good humor =D
<10> I'm having top menu woes.
<10> A top menu can be centered or left/right justified, but it's tough making it left AND right justified.
<11> how do I take something out of the page flow such that other elements can sit ontop of it?
<1> distant: your statement has confused me completely.
<11> but still position it relative to the container it sits in
<11> (say I have a div inside a table cell)
<11> (and I want the contents of the table cell to sit ontop of whatever is in that div)
<1> h1.yourcl***:before { content:".:"; }?
<1> Guess I'll try to tackle this again later.
<1> Thanks, and bye.
<11> any ideas?
<11> basically what I'm trying to do is a dynamic background for table cells
<11> but I'm not sure how to position the actual table content ontop of the background
<11> since I can't use a background image or anything
<12> Newpy2: URL?
<11> http://paste.zoffix.com/1168382740/index.html
<11> I want background to extend 100px and for content to sit ontop of background
<11> (to be 100px wide)
<11> (the 100 is an example, in reality it'll be different depending on the row)
<10> Question... how do people keep the font size from changing? I've set it in pixels yet you can still change it in Firefox.
<12> @
<12> e-head: you don't
<7> (paste.zoffix....) HTML: Valid ( http://tinyurl.com/vbe3p ) CSS: Valid ( http://tinyurl.com/yjzn7g ) DOCTYPE: HTML 4.01 Strict + url
<12> :P
<12> e-head: if you stop me changing your teensy little fonts, I'll hate you :)
<10> ha.
<10> These are not tiny. It's for a top nav menu.
<10> There must be some way to do it.
<12> e-head: they will be on my home machine :)
<10> Zeldman did it.
<12> Newpy2: I hope you're not trying to use tables for layout...
<10> seriously?
<10> Check out Zeldman's top nav menu: http://www.zeldman.com
<12> e-head: happens all too often...
<11> nah, the background thing is a percentage on the table
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