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<0> Simple? How would you make it simpler and, yet, fluid?
<0> If you tell me how, you'll be my hero.
<1> I guess I don't have your genious
<0> My genious? Well, what I made is simple, man. Now, I thought you had a simpler solution.
<0> Guess this was a misundertanding.
<1> :-P
<1> Actually, your method is helping me
<0> Hey, I'm OS. e-mail me and you'll get the whole thing.
<1> I just have to get it more dynamic so the PHP script building the elements doesn't **** it up
<1> No, I'm stealing your style.css, so I don't need any e-mail :-P
<0> Eh, eh...
<2> HugoG: when I position the index* they don't stay within the #wrapper
<0> Look, some people do what I did in a couple of lines and a couple of divs. The problem is that it's not dynamic.
<1> mhmm
<1> That's the problem I was having
<1> Everyone else's wasn't dynamic



<1> And they thought I was being lazy by not being dynamic
<0> Just checked, praguex: your wrapper must be absolute too. That's what I said. Abs within abs is relative.
<2> oh ok
<2> so how do I position the #wrapper so it always stays in the center
<1> What's the difference between FL and BL?
<2> i thought if I did absolute I couldnt do the margin:0 auto;
<0> You can't. I now behold the whole problem: it's IE's fault.
<3> theoretically, why would a background image show in ie but not in firefox?
<2> so i can't ever have my site centered?
<0> I have to leave... bed time.
<1> wait!
<1> What's the difference between the two sets?
<0> You can through JS or hacking without absolute positioning, but I can't help you.
<1> Your f and b cl***es?
<2> what if I put a wrapper over the wrapper which holds the idex*
<1> Is one shadow?
<2> and the top most wrapper is positioned margin:0 auto; then the next is absolute and the index* are absolute
<0> No, one set is box+shadow for content and the other is a fancy box for input.
<1> ooooh
<1> I see
<0> praguex, doesn't work with abs.
<0> I'm off... 5a.m. *sigh*
<2> bleh, alright. I'll do that absolute and then center it with java
<2> thanks
<0> Server is going down, btw, JediKirby.
<3> hugo
<0> Not Java, praguex, JavaScript.
<3> im in the same boat
<2> yea thats what i mean :)
<0> Good luck, Slevin.
<3> but this background image is not defeating me
<3> thanks lol
<0> Get Web Development extension for Firefox, Slevin. It'll do wonders.
<4> Windows.. I'll finally be able to be HAPPY using Firefox again.
<4> It's a PAIN on OS X
<5> omg i hate iis
<6> VirusDotNET, so don't use it? :)
<6> `float contain
<7> float contain: www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html , www.quirksmode.org/css/clearing.html , www.complexspiral.com/publications/containing-floats/
<8> echo '<p/><a href=# onclick="document.getElementById(editContent).style.display=block;">Edit</a>';
<9> argument: k, i'm in #css, but i'm playing with the stuff you've already given me...
<8> why does that not work?
<3> argument, theoritically, why would a background image show in ie but not in ff?
<6> `float contain @ levander
<7> levander, float contain: www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html , www.quirksmode.org/css/clearing.html , www.complexspiral.com/publications/containing-floats/
<6> Slevin, did you fix your validation yet?
<9> argument: thanks
<3> meh will do
<1> Wow, what the hell is going on here?
<1> !v http://www.zentatsu.com/alwaysfallingshort
<7> HTML: Valid - http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.zentatsu.com/alwaysfallingshort/
<7> CSS: Not valid - Error: 1, Warnings: 4, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.zentatsu.com/alwaysfallingshort/
<1> Why aren't my border images pushing all of the way down?
<6> JediKirby, what do you mean by that
<5> !v http://70.114.227.174
<7> HTML: Valid - http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://70.114.227.174/
<7> CSS: Valid - Warnings: 3, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://70.114.227.174/
<5> !v http://70.114.227.174
<10> !v http://www.eczema-symptoms.org
<7> HTML: Not valid - Errors: 5, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.eczema-symptoms.org/
<7> CSS: Not valid - Error: 1, Warnings: 6, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.eczema-symptoms.org/



<3> !v www.yesarcade.com
<7> HTML: Not valid - Errors: 118, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.yesarcade.com/
<7> CSS: Not valid - Error: 1, Warnings: 36, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.yesarcade.com/
<3> the errors dont seem to be going down
<6> Slevin, please use the refresh button on your browser to do validation rather than spam the bot in the channel
<6> VirusDotNET, same for you please
<3> ok
<1> Why is the ad treating the background image as a real image, pushing it over?
<1> http://www.zentatsu.com/alwaysfallingshort
<6> JediKirby, um, you did have one error, did you fix it yet?
<1> Yes, I did
<1> it validates now
<6> JediKirby, what's with all the excess divs?
<6> e.g. </div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<1> They're part of the dynamic outline
<6> JediKirby, excess markup is a big no no
<1> Do you have a better solution to easily add my round edges to any block?
<11> is that the 4-div wrapper squounds?
<12> -moz-border-radius?
<11> toresbe: bite your tongue!
<1> I want my CSS to validate
<1> And work on all platforms
<1> Not hack in CSS3
<12> hm.
<13> Anyone using ie6 able to check something for me?
<11> UncleD: don't have IE6... but what's up?
<1> I'll check it
<13> I'm having trouble getting the equivalent of <img src="img.jpg" align="left">
<13> to work in css
<13> www.gep123.com (this is using align="left")
<13> but if i remove align=left, the text slips down
<11> since the image is an inline element, it will align how your text aligns
<11> got a URL we can check?
<13> got ie6?
<11> nope
<13> u can only see the problem in ie6
<11> don't care
<13> www.gep123.com is the site
<13> im referring to the top logo
<13> and text
<11> !v www.gep123.com
<7> HTML: Not valid - Error: 1, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.gep123.com/
<7> CSS: Not valid - Errors: 2, Warnings: 89, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.gep123.com/
<14> hi, how to give a alternate background for rows of a table using only css?
<13> !v www.gep123.com
<11> nandan: give them alternating cl***es
<11> UncleD: any particular reason you chose XHTML over HTML?
<14> FunkyBob: actually am generating the rows dynamically using a loop
<11> nandan: so do I... I still give them alternating cl***es...
<13> FunkyBob: Nope
<11> nandan: in my case "rowodd" and "roweven"...
<11> nandan: CSS3 selectors will allow you to do what you want
<14> FunkyBob: whts CSS3 ?
<11> nandan: version 3 of CSS
<11> UncleD: which image is this for?
<13> FunkyBob:http://www.gep123.com/files/logo.png
<11> UncleD: I meant where is it on the page... but I can guess :)
<11> UncleD: and the text in the H2 falls below it?
<11> UncleD: I'd recommend you float: left; the image, and be careful to make sure the header div is at least its height
<11> (either with a fixed height, a float clearer, or overflow:auto; )
<13> FunkyBob: www.gep123.com/images/Problem.jpg
<13> http://www.gep123.com/images/problem.jpg
<11> line-height and vertical-align
<13> Are those properties I need to apply to the text or the image?
<2> OK, I am back. Let me summarize. My page was VALIDE but for some reason worked in all browsers but IE (all versions). HugoH told me I had incorrect float formatting and said I should change the floats to absolute positioning. So I did that and now here is my page: http://we-aid.org/index.php how does it look? Also, why did someone tell me absolute positioning was bad? If it is bad what is the alternative?
<11> UncleD: well, the pedant in me says you should put that title in a H1
<11> UncleD: so in that heading box you have <div> <img> <h1>....</h1> <h2>...</h2> </div>
<11> if you float the image, the headings will go beside it
<13> but in my style.css
<13> im already floating the image.
<11> however, without changing your markup...
<13> That's the strange thing.
<13> I'm floating the image left, yet nothing changes
<11> yes, but in your markup the img is _inside_ the anchor


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