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<0> !v http://redmonk.net/files/tmp/bus2/base.html
<1> HTML: Not valid - Error: 1, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://redmonk.net/files/tmp/bus2/base.html/
<1> CSS: Valid - http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://redmonk.net/files/tmp/bus2/base.html/
<0> (actually, the html is valid)
<2> redmonk> can you comment on my site? if you have time
<0> would someone please take a look and see if you can tell why the content area is getting pushed down below the navigation?
<3> `school
<0> SoHaN007: like, post a comment, or are you looking for a design critique?
<3> `schools
<1> schools: Explore the intricacies of HTML and CSS here: www.blooberry.com/ , www.htmlhelp.com/ , http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ , www.brainjar.com/ , www.htmldog.com/ , http://css.maxdesign.com.au/
<0> it's not bad, designwise. I'd prolly up the contrast on the pink in nav
<4> hey guys, I have a menu from off a list apart that I implemented on a site of mine. When the nested list appears, then goes away, the text underneath where the submenu was, gets erased and is white..... any ideas?
<2> redmonk> design critique
<2> redmonk> up the contrast as in much brighter?
<0> well, brighten it so that it stands out a bit more
<5> is there a good firefox plugin



<5> that helps to debug css
<6> yeah
<2> therez this Web Developer toolbar for Firefox
<6> download the web developer one
<6> lol
<2> Fahrenheit> :j
<2> Fahrenheit> if you're free you could also take a long and have a say?
<2> *long = look
<7> Hi i'd like to get this page making better use of the available space, i.e. getting the last list to fill the space above it. list.css is the main file for this page. any ideas? http:83.67.217.154:3555/search/browse
<7> is anyone there?
<7> there is someone...
<6> if you really want to move stuff up
<6> you can use negative margins
<6> but i bet your problem would be fixed just by removing the padding and margins from the list elements
<8> how would I get an image to repeat all the way to the bottom of the page, if I need to split the image into left and right (they're on the left and right of the page)
<7> thats the margins off
<9> an advice pls: it's not css,it's table layout....the bottom image should be in the right and it's not http://www.wepal.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=37&Itemid=75
<7> but it doesn;t make any diference really
<10> i kno more about computas than u all im da best hacker eva
<9> ghostghost:are u talking to me?
<7> hyperboreean: yeah i was but i used negative margin on the last one and it looks good now thank you
<10> i kno more about computas than u all im da best hacker eva
<9> like what?
<11> http://hosttosucceed.com/ - how do i get the center element in line with the left element?
<11> in Internet explorer, it works in firefox of course
<8> is there any way to make something stretch the entire height of the page?
<11> height: 100% ?
<12> Is it possible to have a cl*** selector that selects only elements which have BOTH of two different cl***es?
<12> like: .title & .value { blah blah } or something?
<12> would select a node like <p cl***="title value">Broohaha</p>
<13> hi all. is rounded corner support in mozilla always really ugly and inconsistent? are there any tricks for making it look better?
<13> i'm trying to put a border on it with a median brightness between the block and the background but it still looks janky
<13> (using -moz-border-radius: 9px;)
<14> aliased, you mean? I afraid there's no solution to that 'cept to use images ;)
<15> chrismurf: have you tried .title.value ?
<13> ignorantcow aliased, yes. and no border image support in mozilla support either...
<13> well i guess that answered my question. :) i was hoping for an awesome trick to solve this :)
<14> octvecat: yeah.. you'll have to use filler tags D:
<13> one weird thing i'm noticing is the left corners have a different radius than the right, consistently, no matter what context
<13> it's always about 3px less
<13> on the right
<16> hi
<16> I am creating a template for a webform that is supposed to look once printed just like the original pdf form
<16> is there a way to have some fine grain control over the size of fonts and spacing that is rendered by different browsers ?
<17> Hi everyone!
<18> heh, Nanobot got slashdotted today
<19> Eh?
<17> Has anyone ever had stuff just disappear in IE6 when the window is resized?
<19> Oh wow
<18> Nanobot: well, webdevout isn't loading here, and there's a link from a high-up comment on a slashdot page
<19> GarethAdams: There's a Slashdot article whose story directly references my standards support resource
<19> http://www.idealog.us/2006/08/microsoft_drops.html
<19> And yeah, my site seems deadish
<18> I didn't check the article, I guessed it'd probably be there too
<18> liked this comment: http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=193344&cid=15860952
<17> I've got some text and images in a sidebar (one line of text and one image each in divs with height set to 20px), and when I resize the window vertically, it disappears. When I resize it horizontally, it reappears.
<17> Any ideas?
<17> Oh, and it's only in IE. FF doesn't seem to have a problem with it.
<20> how do I get around resolution alignment issues for this site, specificallly this page? http://flatironoutfitting.com/rates.html
<20> must be 800x600 or lower
<20> that has the troubles



<21> opus: so, make things narrower ;)
<20> narrower or wider?
<20> wouldnt you want the body wider?
<22> random: http://www.skammich.com/ :D
<23> i have a td like this <td><input type = "text"/><input type = "button"/></td> how can i specify css rules so that the text input takes the maximum amount of space inside the td
<23> without pushing the button input outside the td
<24> is it possible to hav ea submit button submit multiple forms w/o javascript?
<24> so i can kind of separate form tags?
<25> digx, um no, not without JS
<24> alrighty, thanks
<25> and I question what you're doing that you need a form to submit more than once...
<24> no its not that
<24> i just have a huge form but want one part of the form to submit somewhere else
<24> and afaik, you can't have a form in a form?
<25> digx, do that serverside, don't require JS to make the form submit work
<24> i know, i don't plan to :P
<24> im just wondering if i can have a single part of a form submit somewhere else
<26> Why does this doctype cause me to lose ability to set element.style.left and element.style.top from javascript? <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">;
<26> (this only affect firefox, btw)
<26> lol, I figured it out, firefox wants me to append "px" to the number, sorry for the noise
<27> hi all
<27> how can i say to 'div' to 'div' become in length as string which packed in that 'div'?
<27> is anybody alive?
<27> or just nobody got my question
<25> `ie pnghack
<1> ie pnghack: www.mongus.net/pngInfo/ , http://xrl.us/jywg , http://devilock.mine.nu/pixie/ , http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/workshop/author/filter/reference/filters/alphaimageloader.asp
<28> i looked at my page http://www.lithic.org/works.php last night in IE6 and saw that the PNGs, though visible, were rendered at miniscule sizes. they and the JPEGs in the right bar are treated the same way (width: 50%) and firefox doesn't show this issue. is it a known IE quirk, and anyone know how to get around it?
<15> brick: validate your code first
<28> yikes, i (of course) thought it was legit..
<28> thanks Chillax.
<29> i can get my text to wrap in firefox
<29> i have it in a div and i set the width to something small
<29> but it keeps going past the width
<28> OK, got it validating... now i just need another IE client to retest
<29> woohoo nevermind
<30> hi, how do I control the spaces between <p>?
<28> py1nb, line-height?
<29> margins
<29> oh nvm
<30> would it be tidy to set padding bottom to a <P> or tha would be bad code?
<30> line-height would not do the job...
<28> i want two elements in a horizontal row to be "centered" vertically - for their Y midpoints to coincide. clues how to accomplish this?
<28> vertical-align: top; has no effect for me; is it cancelled out by floats?
<29> vertical align has never worked for anyone at anytime
<19> vertical-align only applies to inline elements and table cells
<19> And it has a different function on each
<31> hi hi :)
<28> Nanobot, inline... maybe that is the key. thanks.
<19> brick: vertical-align on inline elements only sets the position within the line box, which is exactly line-height tall.
<28> oh... yuck.
<19> So you can't vertically position multi-line text that way
<28> Nanobot, i understand.
<28> can you suggest another approach to the problem?
<19> If you happen to know it's only going to be one line of text, you can set the line-height to the height of the container.
<28> i have multiple spans with various contents that i want to 'string' together on one centerline.
<28> multiple lines are possible. :/
<19> There are good ways to do it, but not if you want to support Internet Explorer :(
<19> Barbecue time. Got to go.
<31> Hmmm
<31> You can always put the spans in a <div> tag, and then declare the <div> to be inline, then ***ign the line-height of the container of the <div> to be the height of the container
<31> At least, I think...
<28> KTQuest, i like your idea.
<31> That's strange, because I do also ;)
<28> hehe
<28> yikes!
<28> KTQuest, how would you do the last step, find the height of the container overall?
<31> Why find the height?
<31> 100%
<28> oh!
<28> much better, thank you. :)
<31> :)


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