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<0> if I weren't busy trying to un-**** our mailing list manager, I'd show you how to do the 3-col view I mentioned
<1> hey, can someone help me with this issue. If you go to my website you'll see "login/register" at the top. If you click it you'll see it is an expanding block. I want it so that when someone clicks it the div its in (which is <div cl***="login"> ) expands as well. but there seems to be issues because I need to keep the page centered http://dev.amwordonline.com the stylesheet you should look at is style.css
<0> @
<2> (dev.amwordonl...) HTML: E: ( http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://dev.amwordonline.com ) CSS: Network Error ( http://tinyurl.com/2frlsb ) DOCTYPE: XHTML 1.0 Strict + url (MIME: text/html; charset=utf-8, text/html; charset=utf-8)
<3> can anyone give me comments on my layout: http://westcoast.bounceme.net/cube/
<4> thank you for your golden intentions
<3> looking to improve it
<4> @
<2> (westcoast.bou...) HTML: E: ( http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://westcoast.bounceme.net/cube/ ) CSS: Network Error ( http://tinyurl.com/2ttvh4 ) DOCTYPE: XHTML 1.0 Strict + url (MIME: text/html, text/html; charset=UTF-8)
<3> it's pretty much valid give or take
<3> there maybe a & / amp; error
<3> just looking for suggestions on possible improvements
<3> useability / navigation etc
<4> i was just going to be a smart *** and tell you that your syntax was not okay
<3> yeah
<3> i know



<3> 99% of people here do
<4> oh god I love this
<4> it resizes fantastically
<0> apart from width= on a td
<4> i want to resize it all day
<0> and an errant </p>
<3> yeah
<3> lol
<0> and | in the middle if lists, outside <li>
<0> and an omitted </div>
<3> hm
<3> you must be using firebug with that many error pickups
<3> still a work inp rog
<5> ress
<3> i'm actually looking to join the left ,middle & right boxes
<3> so it's all one big content box but 3 areas ~
<4> i'm in love with the look of this really
<3> sweet
<4> although i think you could make something out of that lonely top-aligned join button
<3> yeah i know
<3> theres heaps of small things like that which need fixing
<0> fatjose: no, I followed the link the bot pasted before, which uses the W3C validator
<0> I've never used Firebug
<3> ah yep
<3> slow'n steady progress really
<3> working with another guy who did the design
<3> i'm just trying to work out which links should be in the footer
<3> how would you compare our layout to www.ascent.co.nz
<0> @
<2> (www.ascent.co...) HTML: E: ( http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.ascent.co.nz ) CSS: Network Error ( http://tinyurl.com/2fb87t ) DOCTYPE: XHTML 1.0 Trans + url (MIME: text/html; charset=utf-8)
<3> well validation aside
<3> i just mean usage wise
<0> force of habit when I see a URL in here :)
<3> yeah so what do you reckon
<3> goods/bads of theirs compared to ours
<6> I got some input for you fatjose
<6> you are gamma?
<3> yeah
<6> your site looks like one of those sites that TRIES to look like it has content
<3> how so
<3> 24,000 products in the db homes
<3> what more could we do
<6> you know those sites I'm talking about? like you search for woolen garden hoses and you get paid results that consist of hot air?
<3> sort of
<6> well I have 2 ideas for you
<3> so what you suggest
<6> the main culprit is the navigation on the left
<3> the category menu
<6> it's ok, but it shouldn't be the primary mode of transport around the site
<6> I like how the other site has the big squares at the top
<3> how so
<7> is there a property to auto force new line in a div?
<7> so text in a really long line together dosent go over the maxiumum width of the div?
<3> i see
<3> but in the end you can't get far with those square buttons
<6> also I would create one LARGE content area on the homepage
<3> you still have to use the left menu
<6> you could keep the six squares, but have another above it that is as large as all of them combined
<3> which 6 squares
<6> there is a whole science developing around the idea of where peoples eyes first look on the page
<6> the six in the middle



<3> i see
<6> you want peoples eyes to first look at what you feel is most important, like if you're having a sale on panty hose for $.25 you want them to see that first maybe
<3> yeah sure
<7> yes, by a flashing christmas colors gif image1
<7> !
<7> and maybe a few popups that you cant close
<7> until they buy it
<6> wizards are good too
<3> so what we gotta do
<8> @http://172.189.11.192/
<6> I like wizards
<8> !v http://172.189.11.192/
<2> (172.189.11.19...) HTML: Valid ( http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://172.189.11.192/ ) CSS: Valid ( http://tinyurl.com/28rd9d ) DOCTYPE: HTML 4.01 Strict + url (MIME: text/html, text/html; charset=iso-8859-1)
<7> is there any way to auto force new line when the line is too large?
<7> in a div property
<7> so like it dosent go way out of my layout
<6> in your case maybe it isn't so important though, you probably do most business through yahoo shopping and stuff right?
<7> and skew things up
<3> well the online site is intended as a secondary sales point from the store
<3> ie the primary is still in store retail
<3> with online ordering as the secondary choice
<6> fatjose: I'd add a wizard
<6> "What are you here for?"
<6> "Need a part"
<6> "Need a new computer"
<6> something like that
<3> hm
<3> really?
<6> people are really stupid, isn't that what they say when they come in the store?
<3> some yeah
<8> on this design I have 3 divs which are floated to the left to create columns, I want the divs to have a spacing of 10px between them, right now i?ve set a width on the divs in % but that ofcourse is going to give me problems, can someone take a peak @ http://172.189.11.192/
<6> "What can I do for you?" " I don't know!"
<0> @
<3> but to be hoenst consumers are getting smarter & more tech savvy
<2> (172.189.11.19...) HTML: Valid ( http://tinyurl.com/2ftral ) CSS: Valid ( http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://172.189.11.192/ ) DOCTYPE: HTML 4.01 Strict + url (MIME: text/html, text/html; charset=iso-8859-1)
<3> you've seen a lot of the Price Tracker websites
<3> that allow people to compare prices between retailers.
<6> yeah, in that case people are just looking for a part
<6> put a search box right there in the middle for them
<6> oh you got one
<3> yeah
<3> top right
<6> so the other people need to be walked through the site
<6> they're probalby thinking "WTF is a motherboard?"
<3> so largely the bulk of viewers are people who've viewed us via another price tracker site
<3> so in terms of accomodating them i'm working to make it easy to find what you're looking for
<6> I think it does a good job of that
<3> i think search is ok where it is although I could possibly position it above the Welcome message in a box?
<8> fatjose, i?m not sure if i like the add to cart
<8> it seems a long process
<3> i see
<3> how so?
<6> fatjose: that'd be cool, on the homepage integrate the search with a large graphic
<6> with subtle imagery to direct the eye to the search
<8> when i click on add to cart its having to load another page
<3> i see
<3> so you'd rather stay on the page & have it add to cart ?
<8> yeah
<6> is it oscommerce or something?
<3> nah
<8> personally i would
<6> home brew?
<6> I made the coolest layout today
<3> based off an existing shopping cart which I've modified
<3> but yeah sure I will make a note to make the add to cart 1 step AJAX
<3> so it will just do it and then it will show up in shopping cart on right
<6> or even better, a drop down box that hides automatically after a second or two
<3> nah its ok i can do it with ajax so when you click
<3> it'll do that stuff in background & shopping cart will auto change to show the new item
<8> yeah, but when you do that make it flash like a yellow colour to attract the users attention
<6> maybe put something that twirls
<3> well ill do something like this
<6> like did you ever see close encounters of the third kind? Maybe something like that
<8> fatjose, another thing if the user doesn?t have js enabled make it load the page it already is


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