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<0> like... discounting the main flow, there are currently 6 different places for my eye to scan
<1> indeed
<0> which is a bit overwhelming... let my eye trace like 3 or 4 lines, not 6
<1> ok hold on i can remove the top bar myself now
<1> see how it comes out
<0> anyway I gotta go... I like the design (wish I could do colours and shading like that)
<1> alrighty
<1> cu
<0> I especially like how green boxes with a green top have a matching green creeping in on a fade at bottom
<1> heh
<1> yeah nah when its done it'll be 10x better
<1> you ain't seen nothing yet
<0> :)
<2> svg rocks...
<3> im trying to create and effect like www.ebuyer.com whereby if you resize the browser it acts nicely however when i try this on http://cubecart.cornwallinfo.com/cubecart/ by adding a min-width to the site wrapper it doesn't act the same
<3> anyone got any ideas?



<1> hehe
<1> cubecart?
<1> what version
<1> v3 hm
<3> erm 3.something, im just making a template for it at the moment its ok
<1> yeah im using v2
<1> easier to modify layout for ay
<3> there are a lot of features i could add to make it better
<1> yeah
<1> ah man too late im outa here
<1> cya
<3> like i had to totally mod the left hand side of the menu to get sub-cats
<3> cya
<4> is there a way for fixing the width of a column?
<4> in a table
<4> solved :D
<5> I use so few tables, it's not something I think about
<6> doktoreas: Look at the table of contents in chapter 17 of the CSS spec.
<7> hello, i was wondering if and how i could scale a background image to fit the container. say, i have an image thats 100x100 in size and id want it to fit the container that's 50x50 in size. possible?
<6> liekki: No. Background images do not scale.
<7> alright, thanks.
<4> [search CSS spec
<8> good morning all :)
<6> doktoreas: ... its the very first thing in the channel topic.
<8> anyone here running 1024x767?
<6> Daemoen: Its very unlikely (768 is quite common though), but shouldn't be relevent. On the web, its window size that matters, not resolution.
<5> 1680x1050 ... sorry
<8> at least 70% of users still use 1024x767 which gives an actual viewing area of around 900x565 ;) I am simply toying with making a layout for my sight based on those statistics, hence the question. Since im in linux and do not have IE, was hoping to find others who would be willing to load a simple page :)
<5> I hope you mean 768
<6> Daemoen: 768 768 768 768 768. Why not resize your browser window? When did IE come into it? Why not install IE on Linux?
<8> i have resized my browser window, numerous times
<6> So why do you need someone with a specific resolution?
<8> just testing on varying machines. gives better results.
<6> So why do you need someone with a specific resolution?
<5> WebDeveloper lets you resize to specific dimensions
<8> its just like beta testing sotware, the more tests, the betterrr.
<8> s/betterrr/better
<8> oh well, thank you all anyway
<9> good morning all !
<9> guys! is it possible to have comboboxes shows flat ( 1 pixel border with no shade ) in explorer too ? When i add this css, it works great in firefox, but explorer still adds the damm 2d shade on it
<3> hey does anyone know how to make nice product boxes for a liquid layout that will go in the center of the page and resize to a browser size? ive just googled but didn't get anything back, im not really sure what i should be googling, im kinda wanting to make the boxes like the ones on www.ebuyer.co.uk but cant understand their css
<3> this is what i have got so far http://cubecart.cornwallinfo.com/cubecart/
<5> @
<5> YammYgirlcoding: what CSS?
<10> (cubecart.corn...) HTML: Network Error ( http://tinyurl.com/258a5a ) CSS: Network Error ( http://tinyurl.com/3xzxa9 ) DOCTYPE: XHTML 1.0 Trans + url (MIME: text/html, text/html; charset=iso-8859-1)
<5> gah... another "Transitional twit"
<3> oops sorry didn't realise cubecart set all that
<3> i haven't touched a doc-type on it yet ill fix that first
<9> FunkyBob just added border css to the combobox tag. like border: 1px solid pink
<5> ;support border
<11> FunkyBob: border { IE 6: 57.629% | IE 7: 60.962% | Firefox 2: Y | Opera 9: 99.796% } http://www.webdevout.net/browser-support-css#support-css2propsbasic-border
<9> Y means 100% ?
<5> yes
<9> hmm so any other trick for ie, to remove that shade it puts on combo boxes?
<5> tell users to upgrade
<9> :p
<9> wow firefox column is pretty impressive 'yes to all'
<9> =^^=
<9> we should start a mob on it! let's not make ie compatible sites anymore!! boycot them !!!



<12> YammYgirlcoding heh what would the site telling that compatible with?:D
<12> would be *
<9> firefox only! :D
<5> no
<5> standards only
<9> or that! \o/
<9> the browser shouls show a blank screen until the code is standard. that would solve 90% of our problems removing those people 'I learned css in 1 week and i know it all' from the market
<12> DAMMIT why IE keeps ****ing so much .. i mean the most popular browser doesnt care about standards?
<12> FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.
<9> ya !!!
<5> dreambox: because developers keep covering for it
<5> MS don't have to fix it, because developers will work around its flaws
<9> if we stop making ie compatible sites, nobody will use it and M$ will HAVE to do something!
<12> i like the idea...
<9> lets make sites looks horrible in ie !! so everyone will complain and we say 'perfect solution - use this little browser here ( giving firefox url )
<12> i ll put a link on my new site :
<12> "does this site looks crap?its cause you have a CRAPPY BROWSER FOOL!get firefox"
<9> great !!
<5> http://www.w3junkies.com/toocool/
<5> personally, I like to include a div that only shows because of IE flaws
<5> "Can you see this? It's because your browser is ****. Try a good one instead"
<9> so. it's relly not possible to remove the select box shade on ie ?
<5> YammYgirlcoding: URL?
<9> u guys have no imagination? recall memory? :)
<6> YammYgirlcoding: Its dependent on the Windows theme.
<9> http://201.53.48.138:8282/dnn2/Default.aspx?tabid=59
<9> windows theme? really? that sux!!!
<9> nothing in css with a shade-no-more thing?
<6> YammYgirlcoding: Nothing that overrides that in IE.
<5> YammYgirlcoding: have you any idea how much I'm dealing with currently?
<5> @
<10> (201.53.48.138...) HTML: E: ( http://tinyurl.com/yww4w3 ) CSS: E: 50 W: ( http://tinyurl.com/2s8s42 ) DOCTYPE: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> (MIME: text/html; charset=utf-8)
<9> no idea. how much?
<5> exactly
<5> yet another Transitional...
<5> I wouldn't be so quick to blame IE
<9> unde ff the flat design looks so great. why ie can't , why why why
<5> YammYgirlcoding: fix your markup errors first
<9> yeah i can't change them, comes from dotnet framework
<5> well... STOP USING IT
<9> i wish i could :)
<5> that's amazingly retarded stuff there
<9> blame the vb coder that made it. he sux. but the thing at least works
<5> but it doesn't
<5> otherwise, you wouldn't be asking for help
<5> tell the moron to learn to use templates
<9> i mean the code works... html otherwise... not as much as it could...
<5> it's broken beyond description
<5> fundamentally flawed
<9> well.. the frameworks relys on an entire comunity of thousands of people that helped him coding that.. i can't help that all lame vb coders of the world are for it... I'm just one :)
<5> so many lame vb coders
<3> does anyone have a link that shows you how to make nice title boxes that have rounded corners but will also resize nicely?
<5> and you only needed the services of one VB coders
<6> matt1982: Look at the rounded corners page on the css discuss wiki
<5> I'm only saying that becase I only know 1 vb coder with a clue
<3> Dorward: sorry wheres the css discuss wiki?
<5> C# has merits
<6> matt1982: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=rounded+corners+css+discuss+wiki
<12> check www.minimalism.gr on a FF and on an IE... see the margins top :)
<5> meanwhile... fix your markup before blaming IE
<9> c# is harder. so lame vb cobers can't understand it. a very limiting thing that I love =^^= people with IQ < 50 can't code it
<5> YammYgirlcoding: sounds like PHP... people with an IQ < 40 love it
<9> nooo.... that's for asp coders
<3> Dorward: ahh cheers I thought it was a wiki forthis chat room or something lol cheers for the help
<9> php is still a bit harder, specially when it's OO coded
<5> YammYgirlcoding: it's all the same "code in templates" stupidity
<5> YammYgirlcoding: PHP can't do OO... it' doesn't even have NAMESPACES!
<9> php have some OO yes. not a Java, but it's getting close :)
<5> pah
<5> PHP should **** off and die


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