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<0> uhm..
<1> pontiacman: that means it's not possible
<2> without adding extra markup
<0> damn it!
<0> owell
<3> Who needs help?
<4> hey guys.
<4> Font sizing question ... is it best to totally avoid absolute pixel sizes ?
<4> And use either percentages or em's ?
<5> Zeros :o
<4> I'm just thinking ... with such a huge variety in screen resolutions these days (and the advent of enormous monitors with hyper resolutions), absolute pixel sizes could be either microscopic or enormous.
<6> e-head: 1min
<5> :p
<6> e-head: http://www.thenoodleincident.com/tutorials/typography/
<4> Thanks reisio
<3> that;s a crap font method



<3> if you look at the template and increase the font in ff 3 times
<3> the fonts are all the same size
<3> pretty much
<6> erm, no...
<3> erm yes
<6> erm no...
<6> I just tried it, and it increases normally
<3> odd
<3> doesdn't for me
<6> I'm not sure what you described is even possible in a stable install
<6> browser text increasing/decreasing should override regardless of unit
<3> they all merge to a common size
<3> they start off different
<3> :-/
<7> hi, how do i give a border of <legend> another color?
<8> `css border
<9> css border: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/box.html#propdef-border
<8> `css border-color
<9> css border-color: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/box.html#propdef-border-color
<10> i need list menu tutorials
<10> can you give me link?
<6> `listamatic @ latroman
<9> latroman, listamatic: http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/
<8> `list tutorial
<9> list tutorial: http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listutorial/
<10> thank you very much
<10> no no no i meant dhtml menu
<10> slide menu
<10> do you understand :=)
<10> 'slide
<6> yes I understand
<6> do a search for "****erfish dropdowns"
<10> hah dropdowns sorry for my english
<10> thanks reisio
<6> slide is perfectly fine
<6> they just refer to them as 'dropdowns' in the article(s) I'm referring you to
<5> :p
<11> http://www.lollyjar.com.au/hydrowiki/ in FF and IE i'm getting the text repeated twice... I can't work out why it is happening, because view source only shows the text once? any ideas?
<6> Zyclops: like, which text?
<6> it's fine here - sounds like your Windows is going ape****
<11> the text that is displayed in the main section(where all the content goes)
<11> get's printed out all over the place
<11> try going into edit mode
<11> and see if it happens
<6> k, edit mode... 1sec
<11> it happens sometimes when i'm not in edit mode
<11> and sometimes when iv'e just come out of edit mode
<6> ah, won't let me view the source, since I don't have an account
<6> either that or it's taking forever
<6> okay well this is uber JavaScript'd
<5> reisioclops
<6> bad JavaScript could easily freak out and double stuff
<11> ehhh
<6> not that I'm seeing any doubling
<6> Daveman: agreed
<11> on any of the pages?
<11> hmmm
<5> :p
<6> it's simple



<6> either the wiki code is freaking out
<11> i'm get doubling in both IE and FF
<12> Daveman!
<11> i think it's definitly due to FKVEditor
<11> the wisywig javascript editor plugin thing
<5> Chillax: YES, IT'S ME!
<12> :)
<5> :)
<6> or your OS Is
<6> s/I/i
<6> wouldn't be surprised
<6> ****ty JavaScript causes lots of problems :p
<5> Agreed! :D
<5> Correction: JavaScript writes problems!
<11> how does your OS screw your browsers?
<5> magic?
<13> goodnight
<5> dark magic?
<6> :p
<11> i don't even know where to start in debugging this one
<6> Zyclops: turn off javascript and see if it happens
<11> it's looking like it's just my computer
<11> works fine without javascript
<5> :p
<5> must be dark magic and evil wizards!
<11> should i ask in #javascript then? or do you think it is most likely just my computer?
<11> i mean the dark and evil wizards
<11> Kevin says (9:17 AM):
<11> when editing there is a whole pile of text appearing at the top of the page
<11> it's funny that you guys aren't getting it, in edit mode
<14> Does IE know the difference between @media screen and @media print?
<3> `browser support
<3> hmm
<3> there's some site which says what each browser supports
<3> reisio seems to know all the magic words
<6> http://webdevout.net/
<6> csaba: ya
<14> yeah ok sorry, it was a syntax error
<15> Hi, can someone tell me why my right sidebar gets pushed to the bottom of the page, only in IE? http://www.kinggary.com/
<3> without looking, as I don't have IE, I can only guess that it's due to IE autoclearing
<15> daryl-: What do you mean by that?
<3> you probably have float elements
<3> and the sidebar is getting pushed to below
<6> usually that's because something is too wide
<15> reisio: yes, I fixed it before but now after modifying a few things a few weeks ago it's broken again.
<15> reisio: I added left padding to the sidebar and that fixed it, but now, it doesn't matter what size I put for left pdding, the problem still exists
<15> daryl-: how do I fix this?
<3> dunno
<15> ...
<6> GaryKing: see if adding * { overflow: hidden !important; } puts the sidebar in the right place
<15> reisio: nope; I also lost my scrollbar now
<6> k try * { margin: 0 !important; padding: 0 !important; } instead
<15> reisio: yeah, but things ar eweird now. I'll fix it. thanks!
<6> well, it's just to show that somewhere a margin or padding is making something too wide
<15> reisio: why's it work in firefox then? just an IE quirk?
<15> reisio: the !important makes the value overrule all others right?
<15> also, the last CSS rule to run is the one that takes place righT?
<15> like if my style.css is before ie.css then ie.css overrules style.css?
<6> GaryKing: well, IE rounds things differently, and it has different default margins/paddings on various elements, and it just does things differently
<6> `css !important
<9> css !important: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/cascade.html#important-rules
<6> `css specificity
<9> css specificity: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/cascade.html#specificity
<3> bored
<3> am stuck in a lame linux install
<3> cos soundcard isn't supported
<3> and am waiting for a dvd iso to download
<3> :-/
<6> lies
<16> I'm wondering if I can control the properties of text with css so that I could get effects similar to the <pre> tag
<2> yes
<2> white-space: pre
<2> `css white-space @ MA_D
<9> MA_D, css white-space: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/text.html#propdef-white-space


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