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<Taggnostr> hello \o/
<Zoffix> rapha: sorry, no idea.
<rapha> Zoffix: :( ... means it _should_ work or means you simply do not know how it could work?
<rapha> Zoffix: i.e. does it make sense to keep trying?
<Zoffix> rapha: I never came around styling tables. No experience, I have no idea why it doesn't work. According to the specs it should. Ask reisio
<rapha> Okay, thanks :)
<rapha> reisio: Could you take a look http://paste.css-standards.org/3562/view why the table cells don't honor the overflow:hidden?
<reisio> rapha: because they're table cells
<reisio> rapha: give them another display value
<reisio> or pop a div in each
<rapha> reisio: what do you mean with display value?
<reisio> `css display @ rapha
<RTFS> rapha, css display: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#propdef-display
<Zoffix> reisio: the specs for overflow say "applies to: ...table cells...."
<Zoffix> Why doesn't work then?
<rapha> Hmm. I knew display. Just didn't understand how you phrased your sentence :)
<reisio> because table cells aren't meant to behave like that (not by default anyways)
<reisio> they're meant to display data
<reisio> not hide it
<Zoffix> I see.
<rapha> Well, the specs should be fixed.
<Zoffix> =]
<reisio> nothing wrong with this part of the specs
<jargon> i dont understand why the css on that page is impotent?
<rapha> But the overflow:hidden clearly has no effect on the cells.
<rapha> reisio: adding a div into the td helped a lot. The content still breaks around when it can, but when it can't it doesn't flow out of the box :-)
<Zoffix> rapha: try adding: white-space: pre
<rapha> Zoffix: hmmm. Twofold. It does what I want, but the row is now three times its previous height :)
<Zoffix> rapha: remove whitespace in the source code
<seriouslycgi> hi i was wondering i have a div with 80% width set how do i center that?
<Zoffix> ]center @ seriouslycgi
<_ZofBot> seriouslycgi, center: http://dorward.me.uk/www/centre/
<rapha> HAHAH!
<rapha> Amazing!
<rapha> It works Zoffix :)
<Zoffix> seriouslycgi: margin: 0 auto;
<Zoffix> ;)
<rapha> Thank you guys a bunch! :)
<supergreg> Zoffix, can I bother you some more?
<supergreg> dont ask to ask, I know :P
<jargon> my styles are being overwritten
<Zoffix> supergreg: weren't it _you_ that complained yesterday about "bot spam"?
<supergreg> I have my 3 column %-width layout, works great when 15 - 70 -15. If I change it to 16% - 68% - 16% the rightmost column gets wrapped below the others in IE6+7 only when maximised
<supergreg> bot spam? huh?
<Zoffix> Never mind. Wasn't you =]
<Zoffix> perlbot: math 16+68+16
<perlbot> 100
<supergreg> I think the bots here are great, however they dont listen to me, do I need to be logged in or am I using the wrong commands?
<Zoffix> wrong commands. What are you using?
<supergreg> I tried this earlier ]pastebin @ someone
<Zoffix> ]paste
<_ZofBot> Paste bins: http://erxz.com/pb/ , http://sial.org/pbot/ , http://tnx.nl/scribble.plp , Upload images: http://www.scipisc.com
<supergreg> also tried ]pb
<Zoffix> ]css paste
<_ZofBot> Paste __FULL__ CSS Code _AND_ HTML code so we could _VIEW_ your page: http://paste.css-standards.org , http://paste.zoffix.com/
<supergreg> GAH! :P
<Zoffix> supergreg: well, a link would be usefull, and perhaps it is due to round off error. Why are you
<Zoffix> setting width on the middle one?\
<supergreg> the generator did that :S
<supergreg> http://cc.dyndns.org/ag/bah.html
<Zoffix> supergreg: my bot is searchable BTW, you could have typed ']search paste'
<supergreg> generator was: http://www.fu2k.org/alex/css/onetruelayout/example/interactive
<supergreg> kk, great, will use that next
<seriouslycgi> thanks Zoffix
<csarven> is there a way to focus on the input text via an internal link anchor?
<Zoffix> supergreg: hehe =] well, that generator ****s =] I'd say don't set width on the middle one and in the source do it like this: <left><right><middle> and in CSS do: left{float:left; width: someLeft;} right{float: right; width: someRight;} middle{margin: 0 someRight 0 someLeft;}
<Zoffix> csarven: none that I know of.
<Zoffix> ]layout 3 @ csarven
<_ZofBot> csarven, layout 3: http://css.maxdesign.com.au/floatutorial/tutorial0916.htm , www.pixy.cz/blogg/clanky/css-3col-layout/
<reisio> csarven: at the very least you can with javascript
<Zoffix> eeerr
<Zoffix> csarven: that wasn't for you.
<Zoffix> ]layout 3 @ supergreg
<_ZofBot> supergreg, layout 3: http://css.maxdesign.com.au/floatutorial/tutorial0916.htm , www.pixy.cz/blogg/clanky/css-3col-layout/
<supergreg> allright, thanks! perhaps I can just rid most of the hacks that other layout used then
<supergreg> I put what I could find into CCs, and got this: http://localhost/cc.bmx.no/ag/css/iebelow7.css
<supergreg> errr..
<supergreg> http://cc.dyndns.org/ag/css/iebelow7.css
<task0> ]cl***
<task0> doc's for cl***?
<supergreg> ]search cl***
<supergreg> ]css cl*** @ task0
<_ZofBot> task0, css cl***: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/selector.html#cl***-html
<Zoffix> ]html cl*** @ task0
<_ZofBot> task0, html cl***: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#h-7.5.2
<supergreg> hehe weee
<task0> cool, thanks
<Taggnostr> i cut my finger in the cpu fan :(
<Taggnostr> lol
<Zoffix> lool
<Haron_> ò.Ó
<Haron_> why would you do that? :D
<supergreg> I almost just burned my cake in the oven because I was so eagerly awaiting Zoffix's reply :P
<Haron_> that would imply doing something as stupid as reaching into a PC while it's running :P
<Zoffix> Hey! HEY! I cut my finger in the CPU fan couple of weeks ago. Nothing wrong with that.
<Taggnostr> i was looking for the kind of ram that i've and i put the finger in the wrong place :D
<supergreg> Haron_: the new breed of kick/jumpstart enviromentfriendly comps are all the rage :P
<Haron_> Zoffix: you're a freak too then :P
<Zoffix> Taggnostr: hehe.. and my fan ****s and after shut down it makes noises so I was trying to hit it so it would stop and I hit in the wrong place =]
<Taggnostr> the fan seems still ok :)
<Taggnostr> :P
<Zoffix> Haron_: nothing wrong with reaching into an open PC while it is running =] as long as you know what you are doing =] I was making my own radios and all that electronic **** when I was 10 years old =]
<Zoffix> Still alive. YEY!
<Zoffix> :D
<supergreg> if you mistake cpu for ram, you _might_ not know all about what youre doing :D
<Haron_> reaching in a cpu fan doesn't sound like "know what you are doing" to me :P
<Zoffix> Haron_: hehe =] well I knew what I was doing =] it just my coordination ****s :D
<Taggnostr> i was just moving some cables to see the ram and behind them there are the cpu fan :P
<Zoffix> sounds like a wrong position for cables =]
<supergreg> Zoffix: I'll trade you some coordinate skills for some css aligning skills
<Zoffix> I've made a working laptop out of two broken ones. I know what I am doing when I am reaching for CPU fan :D
<Zoffix> http://zd.freehostia.com/10.jpg
<Zoffix> =]
<Taggnostr> on the right there is the cpu, on the left the ram and over them there is the power source and its cable are in between XD
<Taggnostr> :P
<Taggnostr> the cut is under the nail XD
<lectrick> How can I determine if IE is rendering in quirks mode or not? I seem to have the right doctype but I'm wrestling with spacing issues
<Zoffix> lectrick: type in the location bar: javascript:alert(document.compatMode)
<Zoffix> lectrick: case matters, if it says 'BackCompat' IE is in quirks mode, if it says 'CSS1Compat' standards compliant mode
<lectrick> standards. OK
<lectrick> thanks!
<lectrick> nice itp
<lectrick> *tip
<rapha> I don't GET it!! Why is tfoot not allowed in tbody??
<rapha> Erm
<rapha> In table even.
<xic> what are the surfer statistics on FF 1.5 vs FF 2?
<Haron_> Zoffix: well, on a battlefield there's also a lot of people who know what they are doing, but if their coordination ****s... i guess you get my point? :P
<reisio> xic: it doesn't matter
<reisio> they're almost identical as far as rendering goes
<reisio> and of course it's best to only support latest versions
<Taggnostr> if i will be in a battlefield i'll always pay attention to what there is under the cables
<casey> how can I set an element's width to "as small as possible while containing contents"? I tried setting max-width:0, but that just makes the contents overlap out of the containing element.
<rapha> If I said I've found a bug in the W3C validator, what would you guys think?
<reisio> casey: float it
<reisio> rapha: has happened before
<rapha> reisio: k.
<larrywells> Hi all
<reisio> 'lo lar
<larrywells> Can you send me a mesage, trying to test my growl
<casey> float?
<reisio> `css float @ casey
<RTFS> casey, css float: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#propdef-float
<casey> reisio: it's a column of data in a table of results - the column just looks stupid when overly wide and containing only something small.
<gimmulf> If i have a right floated div beside another div and both are inside a parent, how do i make the right floated one to decide the height of parent? Im very frustrated :)
<reisio> casey: don't set widths
<casey> reisio: I don't. The auto width is too wide.
<reisio> `float contain @ gimmulf
<RTFS> gimmulf, float contain: http://www.quirksmode.org/css/clearing.html http://positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html http://complexspiral.com/publications/containing-floats/
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