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<0> excuse me. I need to know if what i want/need is possible using CSS *and* <ul>/<li>... http://69.15.203.20:81/index.php?prog=sports Specifically, the East Central West sections, how they are indendented, bordered, and background is different. the bording part seems *impossible* to me. Help?
<1> hopeseekr: yes it is possible.
<0> OMG i think i just got it!
<1> =]
<2> _ZofBot: Or is it possible to set a minimal height to a container ?
<0> i could do a <li><span style="display: block; border">East</span><ul></ul></li>
<1> Axioplase: minimal? Do you mean min-height ?
<1> hopeseekr: um why not: li{border: []} ?
<0> OMG I think i am teh Biggest Noob
<1> perlbot: be hopeseekr
<3> <0> OMG u r teh gr8est 10x thx k bye!
<0> HAHAAH!
<1> =]
<2> Zoffix: great ! min-height \o/
<1> Axioplase: ?!?!!?
<2> I didn't know that property !
<1> :/
<1> Axioplase: what "height: 1%" a.k.a. Holly Hack does is gives an element layout. It is often p***ed with a Tan Hack, ( * html {} ) and it relies on a bug which is fixed in IE 7
<0> OK, I have two nested elements with borders. How do I collapse them?
<1> Axioplase: I suggest you would use conditional comments.
<1> hopeseekr: collapse?
<1> ]ztut condcom @ Axioplase
<4> Axioplase, IE Conditional Comments: http://www.zoffix.com/css/ie/condcom.shtml
<2> _ZofBot: well, in fact, setting a min height to the other div of the main container is even better in my case...
<4> Axioplase: stop talking to the bots!
<1> Axioplase: no it's not. I am sure 99%;
<1> Axioplase: it is also not supported in IE < 7 (the fix however is trivial)
<2> Zoffix: erf.. I hadn't even seen I was talking to the bot... What an idea to gave a nick that completes the same as yours...
<1> Axioplase: it does not
<1> Zoffix and _ZofBot look different to me.
<2> looks the same to a fast <tab>
<1> fast <tab>?
<2> nick completion.
<1> well type `zof[tab]` instead of `_zof[tab]`
<5> phpbb's css system is fouled up for subSilver
<5> i cant even overwriting by writing css script directly into a tag using style=
<1> jargon: try <div style="color: puke!important">
<2> Zoffix: what about those hacks : http://forum.alsacreations.com/faq/faq-60-Min-height-sur-Internet-Explorer.html ?
<1> Axioplase: Solution 4, Solution 1 { do not target IE 7} Solution 2 {lame hack that takes away an option of using !important for some other style, and takes away a nice umm.. bug fixer? like when something is wrong you would check if it cascades with !important} Solution 3 { dumb, lame hack that is extremely outdated and does _NOT_ even validate}
<1> Axioplase: ALL of the hacks rely on browser bugs... meaning that if you are using them your page might break in browser XYZ version[next]. Use conditional comments since they are provided by the vendor and do not pollute your code with hacks.
<2> actually, I'd rather force people not to use ie :D
<6> `cursor
<2> I'll try the condCond after a short break
<1> Axioplase: then do not provide any support for IE, let it be broken.
<1> ]css cursor @ xic
<4> xic, css cursor: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/ui.html#propdef-cursor
<6> danke
<7> Axioplase: use conditional comments to just disable your css for IE ;p
<1> Axioplase: http://zofbot.freehostia.com =] try viewing in IE :D
<8> ;define ins
<9> digitok: ins: Immigration and Naturalization Service: an agency in the Department of Justice that enforces laws and regulations for the admission of foreign-born persons to the United States
<10> Is there something like overflow:hidden for td's?
<10> (Speaking of a proper table now which lists tabular data :) )
<1> ]css overflow @ rapha
<4> rapha, css overflow: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/visufx.html#propdef-overflow
<1> rapha: ""Applies to: non-replaced block-level elements, table cells, and inline-block elements"""
<1> _table cells_
<10> Zoffix: doesn't work for me :(
<1> ]irc url @ rapha
<4> rapha, Provide a live link: http://dorward.me.uk/irc/#context
<10> Hmm
<10> Hard. Does it suffice if I say they break around the text?
<1> ]secret @ rapha
<4> rapha, secret: No URL = no help. We are not telepaths, and can't determine the problem (let alone the solution) without playing with the troublesome page. So, give URL, or leave the channel and call 1-900-PSYCHIC. Oh, and good luck. You'll need it.
<10> Zoffix: I understand :-) ... would a paste of HTML and CSS suffice?
<1> ]css paste @ rapha
<4> rapha, Paste __FULL__ CSS Code _AND_ HTML code so we could _VIEW_ your page: http://paste.css-standards.org , http://paste.zoffix.com/
<1> rapha: use the first link with FULL code
<10> k
<11> problem: i somehow don't manage to get the third element here in line with the top element on the right side...
<11> http://www.gabejackson.com/ramon/schwamm/schwamm.html
<11> css: http://www.gabejackson.com/ramon/schwamm/schwamm.css
<11> the right border
<1> @1
<4> (www.gabejacks...) HTML: E: ( http://tinyurl.com/yzcnyt ) CSS: E: 1 ( http://tinyurl.com/yxn4f9 ) DOCTYPE: HTML 4.01 Strict + url
<1> Haron_: looks like you've misspelled your doctype, copy/paste this one:
<1> ]doctype html @ Haron_
<4> Haron_, doctype html: <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">;
<1> ]help @ Haron_
<4> Haron_, help: www.diveintomark.org/archives/2003/05/05/why_we_wont_help_you
<10> Okay, got it at http://paste.css-standards.org/3559 Zoffix
<10> Zoffix: Normally the CSS has its own file... I just fiddled it in here.
<1> @http://paste.css-standards.org/3559/view
<4> (paste.css-sta...) HTML: E: ( http://tinyurl.com/y7ws79 ) CSS: E: 2 ( http://tinyurl.com/ym4n9p ) DOCTYPE: XHTML 1.0 Strict + url
<10> Zoffix: actually the first comment I made with the paste is a bit wrong. The left box does... something. You'll see what I mean :)
<1> ]help @ rapha
<4> rapha, help: www.diveintomark.org/archives/2003/05/05/why_we_wont_help_you
<10> Whew
<10> Zoffix: Eh? The validator appears to be telling me that I wasn't allowed to put an <input> into a <form>?!
<12> rapha: Not as a child element, no. Forms contain block elements, block elements contain form controls.
<1> rapha: it also tells you what elements you are missing.
<13> hey guys
<13> how do you display some text as caps?
<1> ]css text-transform @ Denvull
<4> Denvull, css text-transform: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/text.html#propdef-text-transform
<13> cheers Zoffballs.. good morning to you to
<1> =]
<1> good evening to you too =]
<10> Ah k
<13> i'm doing a complete phpbb template from scratch
<13> to fit a site design
<13> should be fun
<10> Heh, down to 2 errors now :)
<13> will do my best to validate it
<13> i haven't heard of anyone succeeding at validating 4.01 strict phpbb forums
<11> validated it
<11> (01:42:40) (Haron_) problem: i somehow don't manage to get the third element here in line with the top element on the right side...
<11> (01:42:42) (Haron_) http://www.gabejackson.com/ramon/schwamm/schwamm.html
<11> (01:42:47) (Haron_) css: http://www.gabejackson.com/ramon/schwamm/schwamm.css
<11> (01:43:05) (Haron_) the right border
<5> what is wrong with the css for the youtube link on this page?http://omnisis.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=35#35
<5> i have been working for 4 hours on that
<10> Zoffix: I still don't understand the first error message at http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://paste.css-standards.org/3560/view ... I can't even find anyhing looking like "...="fa9b3eab262372fd118f697b85af6d01" />" at line 378
<11> erf -.-
<1> Haron_: sorry :} I'm a bit drunk, didn't read what you were pasting.
<11> ok
<11> i need to get the borders of the two elements at the right in line
<11> http://www.gabejackson.com/ramon/schwamm/schwamm.html
<11> http://www.gabejackson.com/ramon/schwamm/schwamm.css
<11> the "logo" element and the "lorem ipsum" element
<11> but i don't see why it doesn't work already
<1> rapha: try clicking on the "validate this paste" in the pastebin. that stuff might be comming from the pastebin itself
<11> already tried it with margins and paddings...
<14> if i validate xhtml 1.1 and XHTML 1.0 Strict, wich one should i pick?
<1> task0: HTML 4.01 Strict
<1> Haron_: #up{REMOVE width: declaration}
<14> Zoffix: mmm, but i'm actualy using xhtml
<1> task0: why?
<1> Haron_: it happens because padding and borders are ADDED to the width, meaning that your header has width == to 100% + 10px
<1> ]css box @ Haron_
<4> Haron_, css box: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/box.html
<10> Zoffix: Can't find such a link. I did it manually tho and it appears indeed to come from the pastebin. However, there is still an error left and it appears to be saying that tfoot wasn't allowed inside table?
<1> rapha: anyhow, what's the link and what's the problem, nevermind the validation for now (just make sure your actual page validates after)
<1> rapha: do you have WebDeveloper FF plugin?
<11> Zoffix: ah, thx, that did the trick
<10> Zoffix: http://paste.css-standards.org/3560/view when you make the window smaller the table cells break around their contents. I would like them to just hide any text that doesn't fit. Also when you make it even smaller, there's something wierd happening to the left box.
<10> Zoffix: aye, have it
<10> Zoffix: sorry, accidentally killed my X server (Ctrl-Alt-Backspace)
<1> ehehe =]
<10> Zoffix: do you see the two problems?
<1> I see the <td> problem
<10> k
<10> Zoffix: any way to get them to hide the overflow?
<15> Is there a channel on this network about PDAs?
<16> Sardukar: /msg chanserv list *pda*
<15> ah nice trick
<15> thank you
<17> hello \o/
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