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<0> night
<1> night
<2> i'm looking to create an element that will fill the remaining horizontal space in a container
<3> zoffix: you can check: http://www.holosfengshui.com/sitio/ on the left menu the text is not aligned to the buttons so i thought that with a "vertical-align" would work but it doesn't
<4> where is that kid who i was talking about ie conditionals and **** with ?
<4> Zoffix: ?
<1> chino: what's the problem?
<1> kRaKoN: javascript:alert(document.getElementsByTagName("table").length) == 30.. you are insane
<1> ]tableless @ kRaKoN
<5> kRaKoN, Tableless: http://xrl.us/jx7f , http://xrl.us/iawr
<1> ]listamatic @ kRaKoN
<5> kRaKoN, listamatic: http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/
<1> ]ztut vertcenter @ kRaKoN
<5> kRaKoN, The Ultimate Vertical Center How-To: http://zoffix.com/css/vertcenter.shtml
<4> Zoffix: didn't you write a quick walk through that explained why ie hacks are bad and how to use conditionals and common ie problems and **** ?
<1> chino: no



<1> ]ztut condcom @ chino, unless you mean this ->
<5> chino, unless you mean this ->, IE Conditional Comments: http://www.zoffix.com/css/ie/condcom.shtml
<4> oh you update dyour look
<1> been a while already
<4> woudl this even work ? <!--[if !IE]>--> <!--<![endif]-->
<4> they are supposed to be only for ie ffs
<6> yep
<1> chino: ie ffs?
<1> chino: those will _hide_ the code from IE
<4> wthats the point of that ?
<4> they only work in ie in the first place
<3> zoffix let me check that out, regards
<1> chino: the point is that if you need it it is there. Personally I haven't found any use for reversed IE condcoms, but it's there.
<4> whats the name of that css property in ie ?
<4> has_layout
<4> yea
<1> chino: it's not a css property
<1> ]ztut ie haslayout @ chino\
<5> chino\, All about IE hasLayout: http://zoffix.com/css/ie/haslayout.shtml
<3> zoffix that link helped me a lot it is working now with the line-height; thanks
<7> I need some ***istance if anyone can help, I am trying to get "Layer2" and "Layer3" to appear UNDER "Layer4" however, it is appearing ontop of "Layer4" can anyone ***ist? I have the code at http://pastebin.com/852918 I appologize for the newbieness of the question but I am just learning CSS. Thank You
<8> GaryNYC: try to set z-index on those 'layers'
<8> http://www.w3schools.com/css/pr_pos_z-index.asp
<9> Ack
<9> What's a link to w3schools doing in here?
<7> Joey, So Zindex them numerically?
<1> joey[]: do not point people to w3schools site
<8> sorry, did not know
<1> ]w3schools @ GaryNYC, joey[]
<5> GaryNYC, joey[], Errors, omissions, deceit. Stop reading them! http://www.w3schools.com/flash/flash_inhtml.asp
<9> First position an element (this can simply be position:relative) and then give it a z-index value
<9> The higher the value, the more "on top" in it
<9> *it is
<1> GaryNYC: set {position: relative; z-index: 12} for example.. the higher z-index value is the higher the element will appear
<1> ]css z-index @ GaryNYC
<5> GaryNYC, css z-index: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#propdef-z-index
<1> ~_~ that example on w3schools does not even position that image even though they mention that z-index applies only to positioned elements ~_~
<8> how can I set my DIV transparent? :(
<8> in percentage
<9> It isn't yet a standard, but opacity:0.5; and such works in a couple browsers
<9> IE has its own method, using filters
<8> by couple you mean : ff, ie, opera ?
<9> No, I mean Firefox and Safari/Konqueror
<9> Opera sort of supports opacity now, but it has bugs
<8> and ie?
<9> For IE you have to use some weird filter: thing
<9> http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/filter/reference/filters/alpha.asp
<7> Ok.. now that I have got the ZIndex sofar to work... How can I take that code so that my materials would be centered in the page no matter what width of window was open?
<9> filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.Alpha(opacity=50);
<9> ;dead center
<10> Nanobot: http://www.wpdfd.com/editorial/thebox/deadcentre4.html
<8> hmm ... I see, thank you, I'll try to implement somehow that
<9> ^ GaryNYC
<1> ]center @ GaryNYC
<5> GaryNYC, center: http://dorward.me.uk/www/centre/
<7> I could not figure out what was going on the site... that is why I was asking for some ***istance...
<8> oh, btw, I'm creating my layout using dreamweaver and testing it on FF which looks fine. IE troubles me.
<8> I'm using DIV's and they are on top of each other. For every layer (div) I have background-image set with transparent areas in picture. FF shows them OK (transparent) while IE doesn't - just ignores the transparent areas.
<8> What could be the problem?
<1> joey[]: are those PNGs?
<8> yes



<1> joey[]: IE < 7 does not support alpha transparency
<1> ]ie pnghack @ joey[]
<5> joey[], ie pnghack: www.mongus.net/pngInfo/ , http://xrl.us/jywg , http://devilock.mine.nu/pixie/ , http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/workshop/author/filter/reference/filters/alphaimageloader.asp
<8> damn ... :-(
<1> ]ie pnghack bg
<5> ie pnghack bg: http://tinyurl.com/pwmdy http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/workshop/author/filter/reference/filters/alphaimageloader.asp
<8> ok, can I use another file format so I dont have to use the 'hack'?
<1> GIF
<8> thank you!
<11> hey Zoffix I have a question. Which Linux OS is the best to work with?
<1> ]irc person @ soalf
<5> soalf, Don't ask the person: http://dorward.me.uk/irc/#person
<1> soalf: and wrong channel too.
<12> =/
<12> Looking to get an opaque element.. possible?
<1> soalf: I use Ubuntu
<11> Fedora any good?
<12> ##linux
<1> soalf: I hated it. Used to use it before switching to Ubuntu.
<11> alright. i guess its a good time to start learning it :)
<1> ]irc @ Youn1x
<5> Youn1x, irc: http://dorward.me.uk/irc/
<12> ?
<12> stfu @ Zoffix
<12> :(
<1> Youn1x: stop being an idiot
<12> erm..
<12> alright?
<1> Youn1x: and stop using ENTER key as punctuation .
<12> erm..alright?
<1> Youn1x: and stop repeating yourself.
<12> okay
<11> Youn1x: if you want people to help you and you want to learn dont be an ***hole man
<12> wasn't trying to.
<1> <12> stfu @ Zoffix
<12> oh. i was just kidding.
<1> In response to a link that would tell you to be more descriptive about your problem.
<12> reading.
<1> Really? I thought you've read it before saying STFU
<12> eh?
<12> anywho, im making a navigation box..and i want the background of it to be slightly opaque..where you can see thorugh to the background
<12> to the other background*
<12> i have googled, but...but what i see is for CSS3...is that ..err, relevant?
<13> hey guys
<13> and gals haha
<5> What about the bots? :(
<13> bots get no love from feesh
<5> :'(
<13> I was just wondering if anyone could give us a couple of pointer for http://symclan.co.uk/chris/nonlogic/yy2/
<13> I've got no idea how I would
<13> ...
<13> now that I started that sentense I suddently got an idea
<13> but I'll carry on any way
<13> but
<13> you see where the page text is, it is a div, and next to it are 2 other divs, which are basically just there for the border images
<13> I would like to know, how I would go about making their heights follow the height of the page text
<1> feesh: put them into the same container set that long strip as `repeat-x` bg on that container and then use position: absolute; to position the top and bottom parts of that border
<1> s/repeat-x/repeat-y/;
<1> ]css background @ feesh
<5> feesh, css background: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/colors.html#propdef-background
<1> feesh: might look at http://zoffix.com the way I did my custom borders there
<13> I've got a feeling what you said might not work
<13> especially with the whole position:absolute :O
<13> site looks good
<13> I'll see if I can absorb the information :D
<13> cheers Zoffix
<11> http://www.mysystemx.com/host/ you guys think is suitable for a hosting company?
<14> soalf: I like the visual appearance very much
<14> code doesn't look that bad, either
<11> thx im trying
<11> what about the name?
<14> I only skimmed the source - it could very well be perfect code
<14> except for the IE conditional comment


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