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<0> hey what is the conditional for CSS IE7 hack?
<1> basically FunkyBob, i would like the tabs to be positioned the same regardless of font size... and to be at the abs bottom of that div
<2> FunkyBob: On what?
<0> <!--[if IE 7]> margin:10px 0;<![endif]-->
<0> that doesn't seem to work
<3> `cc
<3> `ie cc
<4> ie cc: http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/overview/ccomment_ovw.asp , http://www.quirksmode.org/css/condcom.html
<3> Anbidian: on your expected audience, for a start...
<5> Zoffix: Parse Error - border-none
<5> should it be border: none; ?
<3> Anbidian: and does the overflow cause serious issues (unreadable without panning), or not (obscuring a side menu, etc)
<3> UncleD: yes
<5> FunkyBob: thanks!
<2> FunkyBob: I see. I'm still getting a feel for that. I'm trying to see if there is some quick fix that doesn't involve me removing the last column.
<3> Anbidian: probably
<5> !v http://rubyonrailsblog.com/
<1> FunkyBob, gonna keep playing
<4> HTML: Valid - http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://rubyonrailsblog.com/
<1> might be around later
<4> CSS: Valid - Warnings: 534, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://rubyonrailsblog.com/
<5> Ok. I'm Valid.
<5> Now, how do I get rid of the underlines beneath my del.icio.us icon :(
<5> nm i got it
<3> UncleD: as I said earlier
<3> you've got it?
<5> yea
<5> :)
<3> cool
<5> Now it does the hover but not the underline!
<3> I did give you the line to add to your CSS earlier
<5> thank you. If I was able to do this, anyone can :}
<5> oh you did?
<3> UncleD: about an hour ago :P
<3> "a.typo_notable { text-decoration: none; }"
<2> FunkyBob, could I pm you?
<3> also "a.typo_notable:hover { text-decoration: underline; }" if you want it there on hover
<3> `css text-decoration @ UncleD
<4> UncleD, css text-decoration: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/text.html#propdef-text-decoration
<5> FunkyBob: much thanks :)
<5> FunkyBob: any idea why my: .typo_notable_line { is not showing up?
<3> nope
<5> <span cl***="typo_notable_line"> <--
<5> would that work
<3> I'm a little busy atm...
<5> !v http://rubyonrailsblog.com/
<4> HTML: Valid - http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://rubyonrailsblog.com/
<4> CSS: Valid - Warnings: 537, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://rubyonrailsblog.com/
<6> !v http://pixelcarnage.net/Projects/Ferite/001/HTML/
<4> HTML: Valid - http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://pixelcarnage.net/Projects/Ferite/001/HTML/
<4> CSS: Not valid - Errors: 3, Warnings: 16, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://pixelcarnage.net/Projects/Ferite/001/HTML/
<2> If one of your columns extends outside the screen for resolutions 800x600 or less, but you don't want to shrink font size or pixel widths of the columns so to maintain readability, what options are you left with?
<3> Anbidian: wrapping
<3> fortunately, text does that itself
<5> FunkyBob: It took me 3 hours but now every page/article on my site p***es validation of css and html :)
<5> !validate http://rubyonrailsblog.com/
<4> HTML: Valid - http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://rubyonrailsblog.com/
<4> CSS: Valid - Warnings: 544, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://rubyonrailsblog.com/
<3> UncleD: well done :)
<7> 544 warnings?
<7> dang.
<7> Your site looks nice though :-)
<7> You have an invalid 'Valid CSS' link though at the bottom.
<2> !validate http://www.agnoia.com/
<4> HTML: Not valid - Errors: 63, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.agnoia.com/
<4> CSS: Valid - http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.agnoia.com/
<7> you're css isn't valid
<7> I think its just a bug.
<7> It'll tell you fix your HTML before your CSS.
<2> Failed validation, 56 errors, ouch, from 0 errors to 56 :|
<8> it's alive!
<2> after adding the google sitesearch code
<8> lol
<7> !v http://www.itemscanada.com/
<4> HTML: Valid - http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.itemscanada.com/
<4> CSS: Valid - Warnings: 2, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.itemscanada.com/
<7> I got the 2 gayest warnings ever..
<7> * Line : 9 (Level : 1) Same colors for background-color and border-top-color : .footer
<7> * Line : 11 (Level : 1) Same colors for background-color and border-top-color : .content
<7> :-/
<8> endra, didn't have to paste them here you know?
<7> I'm allowed to paste up to 2 lines of code
<7> :P
<8> LMAO
<2> Before I continue modifying my css too far, could anyone kindly tell me if they notice any major design flaws with my xhtml/css at http://www.agnoia.com
<5> FunkyBob: now all i got to do is figure out what's up with that line not showing up
<3> which line?
<5> endra: I noticed the invalid link btw.
<5> endra: im working on that atm :)
<5> FunkyBob: the typo_notable_line
<5> It's supposed to show up right above my del.icio.us icons
<7> UncleD: cool, just letting you know :-)
<5> endra: I appreciate that! This channel is great :)
<7> eh you don't mind lots of me in here..
<3> !v http://www.agnoia.com
<4> HTML: Not valid - Errors: 63, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.agnoia.com
<4> CSS: Valid - http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.agnoia.com
<7> Most people here don't talk unless you ask questions like "How do I set color:red; to blue"
<3> Anbidian: what was your motivation to choose XHTML over HTML?
<7> But this chan sure is great.
<7> Anbidian: I don't like how your google thing doesn't blend in :P
<7> Other then that, your site looks fine in FF
<2> FunkyBob: I didn't take that into consideration. I found a CSS template that I could understand well enough to expirment with and it came with .xhtml.
<2> endra: you don't think the size of the page is too big? I was fighting just to get the google thing in there. I will probably have to remove it since after putting it in my page no longer validates. I need to find a validating place for it.
<7> Anbidian: it'll looks great if you can blend in the background
<2> *nods at endra* I will find a way to do that, even if it kills me ;)
<7> That probably won't kill you, getting it to work in multiple browsers probably will :-P
<2> heh. I am slowly beginning to realize that. Even jumping between FF and IE6 usually forces me to rethink things.
<7> Well, thats where most my problems used to be ;-)
<5> FunkyBob: http://rafb.net/paste/results/nEeM3U40.html
<5> FunkyBob: just 5 lines
<2> endra: if putting in that google sitesearch code into the xhtml makes it no longer valid, does that mean as much as possible of the google form needs ot be definded in the CSS?
<5> FunkyBob: I'm trying to get more space between my articles & my icons (http://www.rubyonrailsblog.com) - the css for it is here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/nEeM3U40.html
<7> No, they're not really related to each other, you have to validate XHTML first, then validate CSS
<2> endra, my XHTML was validated until I cut and pasted the google search form into it.
<7> Yup, so you must validate XHTML in the google search form
<5> endra: take a look pls too
<7> XHTML has a few rules, all names/attributes/tags must be in lower case, and use & in url's instead of &
<2> ahh, gotcha. Words I was hoping not to hear.
<7> Anbidian: once you validated XHTML, go after CSS :-)
<3> endra: HTML has similar rules... elements should be upper case, and & still must be escaped
<7> FunkyBob: ah, I skipped HTML :P Went straight to XHTML hehe
<7> UncleD: sure, one moment
<3> endra: why?
<7> FunkyBob: I just did.. I started webmastering maybe a month and half ago :P
<3> unless you're using MathML, or SVG, there's very little reason to use XHTML
<3> and one big reason not to: IE doesn't support it
<7> I use the XHTML DTD.. and follow its rules, IE supports that fine
<7> Although you might be talking about something else
<3> not as XHTML... it's treating it as messy HTML
<3> s/messy/quirky/
<2> Before I attempt to modify the google sitesearch form to proper xhtml, just to clarify, and forgive my ignorance, is it even possible?
<3> Anbidian: yes, I believe I've done it a few times
<3> anyway
<3> time to leave work
<7> later
<9> Hi
<7> Anbidian: just check the w3 validation page and fix errors one by one :)
<7> zofbot: hello
<9> endra, how is it?
<7> UncleD: one moment
<2> endra: all 56 of them :/ oh well, it'll be a good learning chore.
<7> zofbot: 9" when its happy
<9> endra, ahha
<9> endra, funny
<5> endra: i need to figure out how to put more "padding" between my icons and the articles right above them
<5> endra: pls have a looksie :)
<7> UncleD: I'm looking at it now hehe :-)
<5> ;]
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