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<0> Zoffix any ideas on my problem?
<1> Zoffix: why wouldn't this work? http://rafb.net/paste/results/dWxPKa32.html
<2> UncleD, what browser are you using IE?
<2> UncleD, just a note for you that I had problems in IE with .png images
<1> Zoffix: http://rafb.net/paste/results/sR7Eg993.html
<1> i'm using Firefox
<1> the website in question is www.rubyonrailsblog.com
<1> and what im trying to do is get rid of the underline and red-hover on the del.icio.us / digg icons you see below each article
<2> UncleD, you should have done THIS long time ago!
<2> !v www.rubyonrailsblog.com
<3> HTML: Not valid - Errors: 23, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.rubyonrailsblog.com
<3> CSS: Valid - http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.rubyonrailsblog.com
<2> UncleD, fix you markup first
<4> ouch
<4> UncleD: sure that underline isn't part of the image?
<4> someone recently was bashing their head against a problem like that :P



<4> yay for using XHTML without reason! :)
<2> !v http://70.47.21.222/
<3> HTML: Not valid - Errors: 8, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://70.47.21.222/
<3> CSS: Valid - http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://70.47.21.222/
<2> Head-e, same goes into your address!
<4> UncleD: "a.typo_notable { text-decoration: none; }" looks to be what you need
<0> same goes into your address! huh?
<2> Head-e, fix you markup first.. that what it ment
<0> Line 6 column 6: end tag for "head" which is not finished
<0> last error to fix
<2> hm
<0> ahaa worked
<2> !v http://70.47.21.222/
<3> HTML: Not valid - Error: 1, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://70.47.21.222/
<3> CSS: Valid - Warnings: 76, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://70.47.21.222/
<5> konnichiwa
<0> i cant figure out that last error
<6> !v http://www.microsoft.com
<3> HTML: Not valid - Errors: 2, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.microsoft.com
<3> CSS: Not valid - Errors: 32, Warnings: 129, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.microsoft.com
<6> they **** at CSS.
<7> hello all
<2> rowanjl, it's just they are using all that IE Only crap that the validator invalidates
<2> perlbot error record
<8> HTML: 188 errors CSS: 12 errors: http://www.lamest-crapper.blogspot.com/
<2> !v http://www.lamest-crapper.blogspot.com/
<3> HTML: Not valid - Errors: 188, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.lamest-crapper.blogspot.com/
<3> CSS: Not valid - Errors: 4, Warnings: 288, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.lamest-crapper.blogspot.com/
<2> ^_^_^_^
<5> so is google ;P
<5> !v www.google.com
<3> HTML: Not valid - Errors: 81, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.google.com
<3> CSS: Valid - Warnings: 2, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.google.com
<6> !v http://www.pixelcarnage.net
<3> HTML: Valid - http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.pixelcarnage.net
<3> CSS: Valid - http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.pixelcarnage.net
<6> tehehe
<2> !v http://znet.freehostia.com
<3> HTML: Valid - http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://znet.freehostia.com
<3> CSS: Valid - Warnings: 21, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://znet.freehostia.com
<2> rowanjl, ONLY TOOLS DON'T HAVE WARNINGS!! ^_^_^_^
<2> :p
<6> Shh!
<2> AHAH... of course it will have no warnings there is no content aha
<4> heh
<7> could someone please help me with some CSS that is killing me here
<4> twodeko: URL?
<7> im trying to position a div at the bottom of another div, but abs. positioning isn't working well
<7> http://havarti.student.iastate.edu/illinoiseitraining.org/index.php
<2> perlbot php
<8> http://tnx.nl/php http://czth.net/pH/PHP****s
<2> lol...
<4> !v http://havarti.student.iastate.edu/illinoiseitraining.org/index.php
<3> HTML: Valid - http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://havarti.student.iastate.edu/illinoiseitraining.org/index.php
<3> CSS: Valid - Warnings: 46, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://havarti.student.iastate.edu/illinoiseitraining.org/index.php
<7> :p
<4> twodeko: so, what should be where?
<7> FunkyBob, the variable menu, below the image of the baby... i would like that positioned at the bottom of the container div that holds the two menu's
<4> not following you there....
<7> alright



<7> right now, there is a spacer image between the main links at the top and the tabs above the content div
<1> !v rubyonrailsblog.com
<3> HTML: Valid - http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://rubyonrailsblog.com
<7> i would like the tabs to be at the bottom of my header container that contains both menu's and has the baby background picture
<3> CSS: Not valid - Errors: 4, Warnings: 534, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://rubyonrailsblog.com
<1> Zoffix: I'm valid now
<4> oh, and you may find it more sane to use H1/H2 instead of <p cl***="newsTitle"> etc...
<4> I see only one tab... but ok
<1> Zoffix: i still have the problem
<7> click on the training events link at the top
<4> "EI Training"?
<7> yes
<4> ok.. I see tabs
<4> what's up?
<7> do they float a little off the page, look odd?
<7> they should rest right on top of the div that is the same color of the selected tab
<4> no, they're apart from that
<7> that is the problem
<7> it is text size/font dependant
<7> i would like for it to be positioned at the bottom regardless
<7> right now, there is some CSS trickery with a spacer div to push it down there
<2> UncleD, CSS: Not valid - Errors: 4, you call that valid?
<4> well, I'd start by looking at how the styles on the anchors differ from the span
<9> steve irwin is dead :P
<4> jig-saw: from a stingray sting, yes.
<1> Zoffix: Where do you see that?
<7> FunkyBob, what do you mean
<1> ah
<2> UncleD, #content h1, #content h2, #content h3, #content h4, #content h5 { <--- what is that?? IDs should be unique.. and that's not the right way to do that... h1#IDNAME
<4> twodeko: well, the <span> that is the current tab DOES touch, but the anchors to the other tabs don't....
<2> UncleD, I see that here http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://rubyonrailsblog.com
<4> Zoffix: that's selecting H[12345] inside #content
<7> i have tried to absolutely position the div containing all the tabs, and that pushed it to the bottom of the window... not the relative div
<1> Zoffix: what do I use instead of this? word-wrap: break-word;
<4> twodeko: I've always felt absolute positioning is fraught with danger
<7> FunkyBob, i have tinkered with this CSS for a while and am fairly baffled why it doesnt work... on my linux machine it appears to be fine
<7> FunkyBob, same here... there is none on that entire site besides that
<2> FunkyBob, oops.. -^- you are right ^_^ my bad ^_^
<4> twodeko: well, not on this linux machine...
<2> UncleD, disregard my last...
<7> :p
<7> fonts/font sizes are the issue here
<4> twodeko: line-height perhaps? margins/padding specified in em?
<2> UncleD, RTFM... really... I'm not a mean guy who craves some crack.. it will really help you if you read the specs.. I know it's a lot but in the long run it will save you time
<7> i was thinking about sizing it all with em's, might help somewhat... but wanted some expert advice before i keep getting frustrated :p
<2> `word-wrap
<2> `css word-wrap
<1> Zoffix: Im fixing 3 errors and you're telling me to read a 300 page book
<4> `css white-space
<3> css white-space: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/text.html#propdef-white-space
<7> FunkyBob, to space the div?
<7> space the text to give the div some padding*
<4> twodeko: just guessing.... if you say it's font related...
<2> UncleD, No.. I'm telling you to read the specs regarding your errors
<2> EOF
<4> Zoffix: a little direction often helps...
<4> `css white-space @ UncleD
<3> UncleD, css white-space: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/text.html#propdef-white-space
<7> FunkyBob, so your advising me to rework the tabs using line-height and text spacing rather than padding/margins with em's
<7> px's*
<2> FunkyBob, I'm a n00b.. I don't know where to direct
<4> twodeko: no, I'm not advising anything... I'm just asking if these things are being used
<4> Zoffix: if you don't know, why are you trying to help?
<7> FunkyBob, it is all sized based on pixels.. not font sizes etc...
<7> there is a margin-left: 2px
<4> twodeko: ah, ok
<7> float: left on all the span's
<2> FunkyBob, well I've read something....
<0> allrighty.. good site for css layouts?
<7> and each has a padding of its own
<10> Is it poor CSS design if my website is too large to fit on the screen and requires horizontal scrolling at 800x600 or less?
<2> but from now on... I won't say a helping word until I read http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/ from <head> to </body>
<4> Anbidian: that depends
<11> hey what is the conditional for CSS IE7 hack?


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