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<0> eval: $_ = 'my dogd has fleas'; if (/.* [^c][^a][^t] .*/) { print "OK";}
<0> oops
<1> :)
<2> anyone here used Swift?
<3> can someone look at: http://healthdirect.sadclown.net/submit_login.php and help me figure out why there is no border/background on the main text in IE like there is in firefox?
<2> !v http://healthdirect.sadclown.net/submit_login.php
<4> HTML: Valid - http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://healthdirect.sadclown.net/submit_login.php
<4> CSS: Valid - Warnings: 20, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://healthdirect.sadclown.net/submit_login.php
<3> yeah, so what's the problem?
<2> umm... what main text?
<3> the error message
<3> the main part of the page
<2> yeah, I see it....
<2> what happens if you change your #error selector to div#error ?
<2> it _shouldn't_ be necessary... but then, IE _shouldn't_ be so crap, either :P
<3> nothing
<3> hehe
<3> yeah, nothing happens
<3> something has whacky padding or something, watch what happens if i remove the padding/margin on the #error
<5> can someone direct me to a list of element types?
<3> refresh
<2> `http @ ENIAC2
<2> damn...
<2> ENIAC2: http://www.w3.org
<3> FunkyBob: see that, isn't that whacky?
<2> take the link for HTML
<2> SirFunk: does the wackiness only happen in IE?
<3> yeah
<3> i think
<2> I don't have IE
<3> ohhh
<3> well it doesn't happen in firefox
<3> maybe safari, idk
<2> I found a browser recently that's WebKit based, and for Win32
<2> it's still in Alpha... but it's intriguing
<0> FunkyBob, is there a Linux version if it?
<3> konqueror?
<0> SirFunk, what?
<0> SirFunk, you need to try out your page in Konqueror?
<0> s/you/do you/l
<5> i'm seeing the word "element" referred to in the w3 specs, but i'm not finding a list of element types.
<3> no
<3> i was saying isn't konqueror webkit based?
<0> Konqueror ****s
<0> ENIAC2, maybe that will help you: http://www.ilovejackdaniels.com/cheat-sheets/css-cheat-sheet/
<2> Konqueror was where webkit was derived from
<2> Zoffix: and CSS attributes are NOT elements
<2> ENIAC2: in the index to the HTML 4.01 spec is a link to "Index of Elements"
<2> http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/index/elements.html
<5> oh, so the html specs define the elements for css?
<2> no
<2> CSS doesn't have elements
<5> they're not really categorized by block level, inline and list item elements, that's a good start though.
<2> CSS is, in theory, independant of your markup language
<2> CSS has "properties"... the list for 2.1 is here: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/propidx.html
<5> i thought it had "attributes"
<2> well, I was wrong...
<2> according to the specs, it's properties
<5> oh, property + value = declaration.
<5> i'm not used to studying language specs, it's taking some adjustment on my part.
<5> i'm not clear on the sequence which i should learn this stuff. html first, then css?
<2> well...
<2> both at once, really
<5> seems like a lot of html stuff is deprecated and ***umed by css.
<2> yes
<0> FunkyBob, I know CSS attributes are not elements.. but is what he intended...
<2> Zoffix: since ENIAC2 is new to this, it's safer to get the terminology right _now_... can avoid a lot of confusion later
<0> FunkyBob, like I'm not new.
<5> i'm inducing that an element is an entity you can ***ign properties to.
<5> or is that too broad?
<2> ENIAC2: an element is what you may have learned as an HTML "tag"
<2> <h1> is an element, for instance...
<6> if there isn't enough horizontal space in the browser window, my right column goes down below the left column. anything i can do?
<2> ElliotTemple: well, you could let use look at your markup/css ...
<6> it's not online anywhere
<2> makes it tricky to see what's going on/wrong
<6> both columns are floated. would that be it?
<0> `float contain
<4> float contain: http://www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html http://www.quirksmode.org/css/clearing.html http://www.complexspiral.com/publications/containing-floats/
<2> why are they _both_ floated?
<6> cause i'm new? dunno
<2> ok
<6> it seemed to be working
<7> on http://biggerbrushrecords.com/staff/dave.html -- how can i get rid of the spaces inbetween the list items in the right block?
<2> !v http://biggerbrushrecords.com/staff/dave.html
<4> HTML: Not valid - Errors: 19, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://biggerbrushrecords.com/staff/dave.html
<4> CSS: Not valid - Errors: 2, Warnings: 19, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://biggerbrushrecords.com/staff/dave.html
<2> johnm1019: have you removed margins from the <li> elements?
<7> FunkyBob, sec
<7> FunkyBob, no luck -- doesn't help :-\
<2> my first advice would be to stop using the (now deprecated) HTML presentation attributes
<2> and commit to CSS entirely, instead of half-way
<2> next, you have multiple elements with the same ID... that's not allowed....
<2> if you want to apply the same styles to many elements, use a cl***
<2> was any of that content written in, say, MS Word, by chance?
<2> because you have some funky chars in there
<2> and the space in the right-hand list is padding on the li, or margins on the a (most likely padding)
<5> am i interpreting this property table correctly in that i can ***ign a background image to any element like, for example, a box?
<2> ENIAC2: pretty much, yes.
<5> kewl.
<6> just in case this helps someone: the firefox dom inspector is really useful for showing you what visual area each div contains
<2> ElliotTemple: the Firefox "Web Developer" plugin is even better
<6> ty
<2> allows you to outline any element type, in whatever colour you choose...
<2> and has shortcuts for "outline block elements", and other useful stuff
<2> and that's just one of the menus...
<8> Trying to find out how to get a textarea to go to the right of a floating image. The image width is not known in advance, the containing frame should expand vertically to fit the textarea but the width should never exceed 600pixels (and should always be as wide as possible) http://nifityni.dyndns.org/h4/new.html
<8> variable width things always stab me
<2> !v http://nifityni.dyndns.org/h4/new.html
<4> HTML: Valid - http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://nifityni.dyndns.org/h4/new.html
<4> CSS: Not valid - Errors: 2, Warnings: 11, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://nifityni.dyndns.org/h4/new.html
<2> erm... text should naturally wrap around floated elements
<8> textarea, not text
<2> oh
<8> ideally, the bottom one used for text input would look and act exactly like the top one (which is what is displayed as an end result), but I wouldnt even know where to start for something like that
<8> "I want the textarea to expand to the width of the containing div, minus the width of the image", basically :/
<0> `css float contain
<0> `float contain
<4> float contain: http://www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html http://www.quirksmode.org/css/clearing.html http://www.complexspiral.com/publications/containing-floats/
<0> shruggar, is textarea floated?
<8> I have tried floating it, when it floats the containing block doesnt grow to fit the height of the textarea
<8> anyone know how I'd go about getting the textarea to actually appear "behind" the image, with the text within wrapping? (I dont even know if something like that is possible, but I think I've seen similar before)
<9> Zeros!
<0> zophyx, POSER!
<10> Daveman!
<0> lol.. half an hour difference... It would be funny if this would happen in real life ^_^
<0> zophyx, POSER!
<11> Zoffix: why isn't 127.0.0.1 working?
<11> :P
<0> rowanjl, because I haven't set permitions for your access ^_^
<11> :P
<0> that quote is STILL in moderation damn it.
<11> yep
<11> 10,700 quotes are still waiting...
<12> anyone know why this: http://www.alistapart.com/d/hybrid/hybrid-4.html - the nav looks offset from the photo in IE6/5, Opera 8, but it looks right in firefox?
<0> looks fine in Konqueror and Opera 9
<12> hmmm
<12> it's using abs positioning in the subnav
<12> it's related to the use of left: 0px
<0> purefusion, what do you mean 'related to the use of left: 0px'? What is related?
<0> purefusion, if you are using 'position: absolute;' The normal flow ignores this element.
<12> position: absolute inside of a position: relative element, left: 0px
<12> left:0px on the absolute element
<0> purefusion, well. that will make it NOT relative to the element inside of which it is
<0> purefusion, sorry I can't see your problem because I do not posess the browsers you have mentioned, hence can't help you.
<12> ok, thanks anyway
<11> purefusion: this is something you're working on?
<11> purefusion: this might help, but if not there are other opera bugs there: http://www.positioniseverything.net/op-omnibus/rel-shift.html
<5> if i choose from the set of windows xp fonts, do i need to be concerned about linux users not having these fonts?
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