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<0> Ah, blast.
<1> and are you trying to trigger quirks mode?
<1> because i have no idea how quirks mode works
<1> i never use it
<1> the box model is completely different
<0> I try to write honest, down-to-earth, standards-compliant code. Quirks mode makes me sad :'-(
<1> and the declaration doesn't through ie7 into quirks mode
<1> cfm: http://www.benjaminhawkeslewis.com/www/xhtml/faq/backwards-compatibility/section-c
<1> especially the section "Do not include an XML declaration (usually)"
<1> (let me know if the doc is unclear or confusing, as it's my draft)
<1> s/through/throw/
<1> man watching irc's effects on my grammar and spelling is painful
<0> Okay, I've fixed the validation errors, new page is up at http://www.padcroft.org/csstest/test2.html . I'll go read that doc. Cheers!
<2> WOW
<2> The Drupal support channel is full of ***holes.
<3> :)
<2> I just got my brand new drupal installed, just as they decided to partake in the posting of lemonparty on my drupal
<4> webben, know where i could get some nice apache, mysql icons
<4> lol
<1> virogenesis, no idea
<4> k cheers
<5> Would anyone be able to tell me why my Div collapses in IE?
<6> hey guys the % doesn't seem to work with container heights.. How can I make one container adjust it's size by another container
<5> http://theninthcut.com/capoeira
<1> Dawid[Programmer, % heights are relative to the containing block
<7> drupal sux
<6> webben okay, so if i put container A & B into container C with C & B's height set to auto and A to 100% will it work?
<1> i'm not sure
<1> not sure how auto plays in that equation
<6> webben do you think it is possible to give something a pixel height and an auto height?
<1> Dawid[Programmer, no the later value overrides the former
<6> okay but i can use a trick like putting a table in the container and then giving the table a size?
<1> i don't know what you're trying to accomplish
<1> why don't you write a test case that demonstrates what your're trying to do
<6> maybe i show you, hold on....
<0> webben: Nice document, thanks.
<1> cfm: yw
<1> cfm: your 100% problem's a nice difficult one i'm sorry to say
<0> webben: It's a very simple test-case - could it be a bug in FF?
<1> cfm: the ways of CSS are mysterious; so i'd hesitate before jumping up and down and shouting bug :)
<0> Or do you think it's just the way "overflow" works - it changes the render to match heights, but doesn't change the "logical" height behind the scenes?
<0> Yes, quite true!
<1> cfm: that seems to be what's happening; whether that's what should be happening i don't know
<1> cfm: it may be that overflow, like padding and border, is not part of height
<0> Ah, hmm.
<0> Okay, well thanks anyway! I'll see whether I can find a way to fudge it.
<6> webben : http://www.pianistamateurs.com/dawid/ma/new-design.html
<1> cfm: given your logo is an absolute height (presumably) you could use that i suppose
<6> i want the nav bar to extend to the end of the page
<0> webben: I'll have to find a way around that for the final site, but it'll do for now, yes! :-)
<1> Dawid[Programmer, you're another one who might want to have a look at http://www.benjaminhawkeslewis.com/www/xhtml/faq/backwards-compatibility/section-c
<1> Dawid[Programmer, you mean the red navbar on the left extend to the bottom of the page?
<6> yes
<6> inline with the content of the page
<1> Dawid[Programmer, height: 100%; on both #contentAndNav and #navigation helps a bit
<6> thanks, and then how will i position the footer so it is always at the feet
<8> o.O
<9> Alrighty guys... keep in mind the site is supposed to be dark and gloomy..... but how is the layout: http://www.cybergrunge.com
<8> Bigun, are you sure you typed the address corectly?
<9> Zoffix: Yes
<6> webben: update http://www.pianistamateurs.com/dawid/ma/new-design.html
<0> Right, enough fiddling with CSS for today - good night all!
<8> bye
<8> Bigun, I like it ^_^ but the index page has what is called "Tomb Stones Design" Like all the collumns on the same line... I don't mind it... but some people call it that and say that it's a bad design =\
<8> Bigun, can you accually download songs on that website for free?
<9> Yes... but you will need a free account
<9> Also free... I don't sell the e-mail addy's either
<9> Sweet
<8> eh =\
<9> Be sure to vote though.... that's what the artists are after
<8> Bigun, try to make it so if the user enters some field wrong all the information stays... I have to enter everything all over again.. and for some reason it said that 'tetra701@hotmail.com' is an invalid e-mail =/
<9> ???
<9> O rly
<9> Uhh
<9> went through here
<9> Check your e-mail
<9> :P
<8> hm yes =/... tetra701@hotmail.com is an invalid e-mail .... and I have to retype everything -_-
<9> No, no.... I mean I *just* registered it.... check your mail
<10> lol what's the property to change text to italics?
<8> Bigun, hm.... zoffix@mail.ru worked though
<9> lol
<9> I'll delete that old registration
<9> :P
<10> and i don't mean <em></em>. What's the CSS property that makes text italic?
<8> hesperaux, font-style: italic;
<10> thanks
<8> or is it text-style:italic; =\...
<8> either one ^_^
<9> :P
<9> Issues with registering Zoffix ?
<8> Bigun, hm.. well I clicked on e-mail link and now I clicked on "Go back to login" and I'm still waiting for it -_-
<10> font-style works
<9> I'm listening to music off of it too...
<8> logged in
<9> Maybe others too
<1> Dawid[Programmer, dunno, that gap is a bit mystifying; maybe simplify down the page until you can get rid of it, then rebuild the page with it working
<1> i'm not used to table layouts like that though
<6> oh, is there any easier way to do it?
<1> well, there are better ways of doing it
<6> how?
<1> not using table layouts
<1> using less absolute sizing
<8> Bigun, is it a metal only website?
<9> HEavy-type music site... yeah
<6> less absolutes? okay so you saying i should start over
<9> Unsigned bands
<1> Dawid[Programmer, have a google for positioniseverything
<1> Dawid[Programmer, no i'm saying i can't immediately see how to solve your problem
<6> okay, what is the best doc type for my type of website rendering?
<1> but i'm not used to old-fashioned table based layouts
<1> best doc type?
<1> html 4.01 strict
<8> Bigun, http://zoffix.freehostia.com/mymusic.html those are some tracks that I've made myself... I call that style "Trance-Metal" Listen to "Bleeding Shadow" it's the most metal-like track.. and "Parabola" is a good track ^.^
<1> but that's not really the issue here
<1> Dawid[Programmer, the topic includes a link about not using tables for layout
<9> EXCELLENT
<9> Zoffix: Post it
<9> Zoffix: Just please... make double, triple sure you type in a p***word before you click submit on your profile
<1> Dawid[Programmer, and a good resource is positoniseverything (google it)
<8> Bigun, okie\
<8> Bigun, oh... in "Porfile" Section.. the button "Retype Your P***word" is kinda not aligned properly along with other stuff
<8> Profile even
<9> Hrm.... browser?
<8> Opera
<8> zofbot, t de_en Du Hast
<8> haste?! heh
<8> to hurry... ok..
<8> zofbot, you buggy son of a bitch.!!! I'm gonna split your code up!
<3> ehehe
<8> well.. he's 1,500 lines all in one file ^_^... doing to make a module right now
<8> s/doing/going/;
<9> Zoffix: Kick *** stuff
<9> lol... sounds like a sega genesis engine
<8> ^_^
<8> cool I see my name on the site ^_^
<9> Put a myspace link in the 'about me' section
<9> Zoffix: Also.... choose a style and you can end up in the top 10 in one of the styles
<8> Bigun, well I'll put it when I'm done with my site
<9> http://www.cybergrunge.com/play.php?song=38 <--- I like this one
<6> webben
<11> why isn't the cursor changing to the link pointer on this line?:
<11> <tr onclick="window.location.href='foo.php';" cursor:pointer;>
<12> because that's not valid
<12> style="cursor: pointer;" might work
<11> ah, thanks
<11> that did it :)
<12> amazing what happens when you follow the specs...
<8> eval: $_ = 'my dogd has fleas'; if (/.* [^c][^a][^t] .*/) { print "OK";}
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