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<0> heh... what FF does not support ':before' pseudo-cl***? Does anything support it?
<1> IE doesn't
<1> thus it's not worth using
<0> FF, Opera and Konqueror don't either... ****ers
<2> hello
<0> olleh
<2> (:
<0> :)
<3> what is :before used for :S?
<4> Lacrymist: cool effect :) but I understand it's annoying
<5> i dont understand why it isnt working. it works perfect on FF for osx and xp, but not IE... i tried the hacks but i guess im not putting it in the right place
<0> feesh, img:before {color:red} <p>****ers</p><img src="haha"> would make <p> color red
<0> feesh, allows to style the content that does not currently exist
<0> feesh, http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/generate.html#before-after-content
<3> wow
<3> another way of reducing bulk
<3> but no browsers support it?
<4> Lacrymist: I'd almost guess it has something to do with the prepareIE stuff in lightbox.js... but not sure...
<0> feesh, seems like not =\
<6> feesh: Gecko, Webkit/KHTML and Opera all support generated content
<3> but not the pseudo rule?
<6> feesh: They all support :before and :after
<3> ...
<3> Zoffix, have you been lieing to me :O
<0> Dorward, really?? I've just tried... maybe I'm doing something wrong
<6> Umm
<0> Dorward, img:before {color:red} <p>****ers</p><img src="haha"> would it make <p> color red??
<6> Zoffix: :before means "a generated element before the element that matches" not "An element in the markup immediatly before the current element"
<3> so
<3> it should be
<3> img:before{content:blah; color:red} ?
<3> or even
<3> img:before{content:"<p>blah</p>; color:red} ?
<0> Dorward, how is it generated then?
<3> >: | plus a " in there some where
<6> Zoffix: http://dorward.me.uk/tmp/generated.html
<0> Dorward, oh ok I get it now.. I didn't get to the 'content' propery in the specs yet.
<3> Zoffix, how much of the specs did you read :P
<3> first thing I saw on that link you sent me was the content:
<0> feesh, well I've read the 'CSS Web Design for Dummies' like a week ago and now I've just started reading the specs =)
<0> feesh, and I did not yet read the link I gave you :p
<3> haha
<3> blindly helping people :O
<3> hey I've got a question
<3> you know how it is a needed legal requirement to have a business site accessible to all
<0> feesh, helping? I was not helping anybody.
<3> like poor of sight etc
<0> feesh, heh.. I have no idea =|
<3> do you just have 2 seperate css sheets for each one, or do you make 2 copies of the site?
<2> feesh, for what?
<6> feesh: You shouldn't need multiple stylesheets for a site to be accessible.
<2> and semantic markup
<0> feesh, what? It's a legal requirement... really? Interesting.. in what country?
<3> good ol england
<0> I see..
<3> I dunno the specifics
<6> Zoffix: Several. Including the UK and the USA under certain conditions.
<3> but I know enough to know I need to know how to make a site accessible hehe
<0> zofbot, addlame dunno
<3> so how would you make a site accessible then Dorward?
<5> are there any other css channels on other servers?
<5> besides here and efnet?
<2> ircnet
<2> css.hu
<2> :)
<5> helpful?
<2> but its better i think
<2> no, crappy
<6> feesh: Seperate content from presentation. Use semantic markup, and follow a rather long list of guidelines that cover things like "Not making stuff blink" and "Making sure links make sense out of context".
<5> i've been scratching my head over this one problem for a while now and i can't get any feedback
<2> feesh, read wcag, read useit.com etc :)
<3> Dorward, like no "You can catch the site <a href="someaddy/">here</a>" I guess?
<6> feesh: Indeed
<5> Dorward: i thought you had gone... still no luck with that height: 1%; hack
<6> Lacrymist: I've never needed to use it myself
<7> Lacrymist: For clearing floating?
<7> er floats
<5> no... im having a problem where IE isnt displaying a scrollbar
<2> i found maybe the best solution for clearing yesterday -> overflow: hidden + width: 100% on the parent element
<5> b0at: www.smart-mouse.com/mailfromthenorthpole when IE is smaller than the content to require a scrollbar... when you click preview.. there isnt one
<2> Lacrymist, why do you need 2 scrollbars?
<5> take a look
<5> it only happens in IE
<3> noocx you got a page with that method? :D?
<6> noocx: Who said anything about /2/ scrollbars? I thought the problem was that there were zero.
<5> when you click preview, the content updates, but the scrollbar disappears
<2> here in Hungary everyone doing sites with double scrollbar so thats why i thinked
<8> sorry i got disconnected...last thing i read was noocx talk about Hungary
<2> that was the last
<8> apparantly the fix for that is to put height: 1% on a relative positioned div that contains the absolute positioned content.. but that doesnt work
<9> overflow:auto ?
<2> why do you use absolute and realitve positioning on this layout ?
<8> to position the green boxes and the bulbs
<2> thats 2 cols
<10> !v yahoo.com
<11> HTML: Not valid - Errors: 45, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://yahoo.com
<11> CSS: Valid - Warning: 1, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://yahoo.com
<10> Damn ;)
<10> !v google.com
<3> !v http://mike.symclan.co.uk
<11> HTML: Not valid - Errors: 81, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://google.com
<11> CSS: Valid - Warnings: 2, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://google.com
<11> HTML: Not valid - Errors: 6, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://mike.symclan.co.uk
<11> CSS: Valid - Warnings: 6, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://mike.symclan.co.uk
<3> haha no way
<3> just 6 errors
<8> overflow: auto for which div though?
<3> thats a site I made when I didn't know what the internet was
<10> ?
<10> :)
<10> It's your #1 information source. :)
<0> !v http://tetra701.narod.ru
<10> where information means any kind of information.
<10> !v itreviews.blogspot.com
<11> HTML: Not valid - Errors: 19, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://tetra701.narod.ru
<0> that's the site I've made when I was 15
<11> CSS: Valid - http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://tetra701.narod.ru
<11> HTML: Not valid - Errors: 89, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://itreviews.blogspot.com
<11> CSS: Valid - http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://itreviews.blogspot.com
<10> Zoffix, and how old are you now?
<0> SantaFreak, 20
<10> I'm almost 15..
<10> :)
<0> ^_^
<12> in opera this is working as expected (when the image size increases, the listings of allowed markup falls below the image). But in firefox, the listings of allowed markup get squished to the right side. Any ideas?
<12> agh
<0> SantaFreak, go pack your bookpack ^_^
<12> err, link would help :)
<10> Zoffix?
<12> http://nifityni.dyndns.org/h4/new.html
<0> SantaFreak, I was trying to say.. school is coming ^_^... bookpack == backpack == bookbag == backbag == plastic bag
<10> Zoffix, your site is ugly.
<8> and im 6
<8> any more ideas?
<10> I mean, I dunno 2001ish trends, but it's quite ugly.
<0> SantaFreak, what do you want ^_^ it was my first attempt ^_^.. I like the Flash buttons... I didn't even know what HTML stood for ^_^
<10> ah :)
<9> burn him!!
<10> But I admit it was harder to leaarn these things those days.
<10> It's easier for today's generation.
<10> :)
<0> SantaFreak, I'm surprised that site is still there... I didn't update it in 5 years ^_^
<0> perlbot zoffix
<13> http://zoffix.freehostia.com (old site) http://znet.freehostia.com (new site still in development)
<0> those are new... before and after I started learning CSS ^_^
<10> ahem.
<10> There definitely is a difference. But I don't like purple :P
<10> 42 visits. cool.
<10> :)
<0> SantaFreak, I think you should look at the "unique" visits... ^_^ I wrote the counter and the guest book myself in Perl.. and for some reason I could not add an entry on the old site right now =\
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