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<0> hmm.. yeah I didn't think this would be easy..
<0> it should be though.. damnit it should be!
<1> what's the point anyway?
<2> yeah, id like to keep it dynamic
<2> I want it to be elastic
<0> I have 3 images for the look of my site and it would only work in the background
<2> at least the height according to the content the div holds, and the width according to the container the dic sits in (parent would be a better word)
<0> the top image, the tiled border image, and the bottom
<1> m3l: so you want a background-image for that dynamic width layout that stretches all the way across the div?
<1> bavarian: join the images?
<0> jazzman, yeah that would be a problem I think, incase one of my pages has a huge amount of content
<0> one static image wouldn't adjust to teh content div's size
<1> i see
<0> ah well, I guess I'll have to use javascript or modify the image and just have a solid div overlapping the background
<0> ****s!
<1> with position: relative; top: -3em (or whatever) you could make a div appear to be lying underneath yout text. So ...
<1> ... you'd just have 3 div. One after the other. 1st one empty width 1st pic as bg. 2nd one text. 3rd empty
<2> thats it exactly jazz
<1> m3l: wait a sec, I remember an article. Gonna google
<0> jazzman, I'm not following.. or were you not talking to me?
<1> bavarian: I was
<1> m3l: http://alistapart.com/articles/elastic
<3> how can I do the equalent of HTML <i></i> using css inside a <p></p>
<1> bavarian: your html: <div id="box1"></div><div id="box2">text here</div><div id="box3"></div>
<0> jazzman, oooh ok... the way the main look is, this cannot be done without looking very unprofessional!
<4> Zero_Dogg: font-style
<5> I have 2 DIVs, each of which basically are the visual space where information on 2 tabs will be shown. Now I am rendering lots of information into one div, and it bring up scroll bars when nessessary, I then hide that div by clicking another tab, but the scroll bars are still visible
<1> bavarian: your css (roughly): box1 {background: ... ; position: relative; top : -4em;} box2 {background-....} box3 {position: relative: top: 4em}
<3> Dorward: yeah, I know about that, but how do I do it in the html itself? Do I need to </p><p style=...> or ?
<0> jazzman, oh... well I'm a little lost here it seems.. I'll try this out and see what comes up.. thanks!
<1> np
<4> Zero_Dogg: You work out why you want italics. (Is it a heading? Introductory paragraph? Quotation?) write suitable markup, using cl***es and/or ids if nothing more specific in built into the language. Then write a selector to match.
<1> <i> is deprecated just use <em>
<3> and for <u>?
<3> Dorward: hrm, right
<4> jazzman: No it isn't, although it should be. <em> is not a global reson for italic text.
<1> Milesy: do you have a screenshot?
<4> Zero_Dogg: text-decoration ... but underlined text that isn't a link is generally a bad idea
<1> Dorward: right. But the effect is the sane and it is semanticly correct
<3> Dorward: true
<4> jazzman: The effect is only "the same" in some browsers. It is only semantically correct if the reason for using <i> was because you wanted empathis. There are other reasons for using italic text.
<1> Dorward: You are absolutely correct. I was merely generalizing.
<2> jazz: you are a champion and a scholar
<1> btw you can style em to be bold if you want
<6> is there a font attribute to <body>? or anyway to specify font-style without using css?
<7> why do you want to not use css????
<6> Jazzman101: i do, i just want a nice default font (ie. sans-serif) if css is disabled.
<8> hi all
<8> I am attempting to rid myself of tables as much as possible, but I am having problems with IE.
<7> cap: who doesn't
<8> http://browsershots.org/screenshots/8349bae01d6f716362f4d4bf5cc57945/
<8> I figured I someone would say that.
<8> How can I fix it?
<9> clear:both
<9> I think
<6> .clearfix
<9> on your menu element
<8> the lower left column is supposed to have the horse at the top
<7> cap: you need a hack; * html #divname { width: another value, IE ****s up margins and paddings}
<7> that rule will only be read by msie
<8> Jazzman101, where can I read about that?
<7> google for tan-hack for more info
<7> chovy: I don't know of any not deprecated and working way to tell a browser what font to use
<8> what version are most IE users on right now?
<7> 6
<8> cool, is that like 75%?
<7> dunno, might be
<7> http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
<8> thanks
<7> you're welcome
<8> Jazzman101, if I use tan-hack, does that affect IE 7.0?
<7> tough question. I didn't read a lot about that... gimme a sec
<7> Ok, If i got it right, IE7 will only be affected in quirks-mode (i.e. with Doctype declaration xhtml-transitional) not with doctype set to strict
<8> cool
<7> cool? I don't know. F-ing Microsoft Coders make a lot of problems if you ask me
<10> How many problems do F-ing Microsoft Coders make, Jazzman101 ?
<7> why? you working for MS?
<10> No.
<11> nice try
<7> Just google for ie and css for a little bit. Standards (not only css) are totally ignored by this company
<12> IE7 got a little better about that.
<7> hardly afaik. As a matter of fact the development of a new browser in the ie-line made a lot of things harder on web developers
<12> jazz: I write my css so it p***es the w3 css validator.
<7> that's a good thing!
<12> being non-commercial, I don't have to worry too much about IE, because I refuse to do hacks to make IE 'work' with already standards-compliant code.
<7> Ok, I can see your point. But even with non-profit pages, why do you as a web developer or designer have to accept that a large portion of people cannot enjoy your work as it was meant to be? The W3C are busting their balls (pardon my french) to come to specs and thanks to the mis-development in redmond it's all for naught
<13> I'm trying to track down this weird effect I'm getting on an anchor tag after hovering over it.
<13> Can somebody check this out: http://dotsandloops.net/?theme=subGala
<13> Look at the HEADLINES, FEEDS, and SAVED links/buttons.
<13> When you hover over them they appear to get a 1px #fff border around them.
<7> works fine in ff
<7> what browser are you using?
<13> Do you get a 1px border along the top and left?
<13> FF
<14> In Safari, first time over shifts the button by a px
<13> that's exactly what I'm getting pbx.
<13> I'm getting it in FF though.
<7> ff = firefox (2.0 in my case) and there only is a white border on the left. But it's there whether you hover or not
<7> 2 or 3px
<13> It's supposed to be a button bar. I changed the margin so you can see the effect I'm looking for. That 1 px shift is annoying.
<13> yeah, the one on the left is intended.
<13> pbx and I get a 1px shift down and to the right. Is that right pbx ?
<13> What's weird is I dont' get it here: http://testbed.dotsandloops.net/index3.php
<13> I'm running FF 1.5 still. That could be it.
<7> doesn't even float in ie6 btw
<13> yeah, I'm going to worry about IE later. :)
<12> Is there a way in CSS to alternate output colors every other line to make a large table of information easier to read?
<12> or does that have to be done in the script that outputs the table?
<7> http://www.alistapart.com/articles/zebratables/
<4> CuriosCat: There's something proposed for CSS 3, but for now you are pretty much stuck adding cl***es to the table.
<13> The later I believe, though I think CSS 3.0 might *** something like that.
<13> add, rather.
<13> that was quite a typo.
<13> ahh. I got it figured out.
<13> I had some renegade CSS that was getting ****ed in.
<13> :)
<7> happens
<14> e-head_: That's right
<13> yeah, particularly when restyling a site.
<13> Got to watch that. I just changed the ID's and everything works nicely now.
<7> that's always a good idea when restylong
<7> restyling
<15> how can I get the background image in a div to be top-center?
<4> bavarian_: background-position property
<16> hey all did a mockup last ngiht for a client ( initial ) waddya think? http://stickmanlabs.com/remax/
<16> !v http://stickmanlabs.com/remax/
<16> @http://stickmanlabs.com/remax/
<17> cool
<16> hmmm how do i validate here again?
<16> thanks :)
<18> it is @
<18> might be lagged
<12> Hrm.
<18> ]ping
<16> @ http://stickmanlabs.com/remax/
<18> you got it the first time
<18> [ping
<16> ahh
<12> <table border="2" frame="box" width="100%"> displays the table the way I want. Putting the same thing in my style sheet does not?
<19> (stickmanlabs....) HTML: Network Error ( http://tinyurl.com/ywapvd ) CSS: Network Error ( http://tinyurl.com/2rkg3c ) DOCTYPE: XHTML 1.0 Strict + url (MIME: text/html, application/xhtml+xml; charset=UTF-8)
<19> PONG!
<12> eg doing: table { border: 2; frame: box; width: 100%; }
<16> haha the bot ****s
<16> it validates perfectly in css and xhtml strict, just checked, on the first time too :) im gettin better at this valid code thing :)
<16> CuriosCat is frame a css attribute?
<12> stickmanonline: From the way you ask, I'm going to guess it is not. What is the CSS equivalent?
<15> anyone know a good link about easily understanding different ways for creating themes?
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