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<0> you could do width: 7.5in; height: 10in;, but there's not much point :p
<0> Elekchron: why?
<1> i have a background image, and i have a <div cl***="post"></div> in it, i want a transparent bg on cl***="post" so that users can still see the background img
<0> ah
<0> yeah what Dorward said
<1> but what would be the image be?
<0> but you won't need it unless you've already set a background on .post
<1> for cl***="post"
<0> Elekchron: but what?
<1> do i need to make a bg image?
<1> for post
<2> Elekchron: No, just don't set one.
<1> but i want it to show something
<1> a transparent look
<2> Elekchron: Do you mean translucent?
<1> yes i guess so
<1> sorry didnt knwo what they call it
<1> yes translucent is what i want
<2> Elekchron: Then you need to edit the image. How you do that depends on your graphics software. Internet Explorer will cause you pain, JavaScript/ActiveXy hacks are available, I've never used them.
<0> `ie pnghack bg @ Elekchron
<3> Elekchron, ie pnghack bg: http://devilock.mine.nu/pixie/ , http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/workshop/author/filter/reference/filters/alphaimageloader.asp
<1> can i use opacity
<0> you can, but IE doesn't support it
<4> is opacity fully supported, though?
<4> oh, yes
<1> it doesnt?
<2> Elekchron: Its non-standard (currently), suffers from weak browser support, and isn't limited to the background.
<0> it has a proprietary equivalent, though
<0> 'opacity' is not non-standard :p
<1> filter:alpha(opacity=60);
<1> -moz-opacity: 0.6; opacity: 0.6;
<1> those work in IE too right?
<0> filter does
<0> -moz-opacity is redundant to opacity these days
<4> isn't opacity css 3 or something?
<5> Remember -khtml-opacity too.
<0> ;support opacity
<2> reisio: Its in a candidate recommendation. It isn't standard yet.
<6> there is a way to overwrite an "id" rule, with a "cl***" rule?
<7> reisio: opacity { IE 6: N | IE 7: N | Firefox 1.5: Y | Opera 9: 75% } http://www.webdevout.net/browser_support_css.php#support-css3propsbasic-opacity
<1> okay so i set a bg color on .post
<0> Dorward: sure it is
<1> then set opacity to it?
<1> or what
<2> Elekchron: So you really want to make the text content translucent too?
<0> the difference between 'candidate recommendation' and 'recommendation' doesn't make it nonstandard :p
<1> text will be normal
<2> Elekchron: Then you do NOT want opacity.
<1> just a translucent look so i can see the bg image in the back
<0> Elekchron: http://reisio.com/temp/punkid/
<0> fijam: that's a yes, btw
<1> ya something like that
<1> k let me take a look
<1> thanks reisiot
<1> reisio*
<1> does this work in ie too
<1> aww it doesnt
<0> if you use the evil proprietary filter it will
<5> Waaaah!
<5> Opera 9 has opacity support!
<0> :)
<1> sweet
<1> let me look :)
<4> I love those screams of p***ion
<0> Twey: as 'opacity' or '-o-opacity'?
<5> Lol, I've spent way too long working around that :-P
<4> opacity methink
<5> reisio: opacity
<1> opacity
<0> good stuff
<5> reisio: http://www.webdevout.net/browser_support_css.php#support-css3propsbasic-opacity
<0> oh, that's right I did that command :p
<0> Nanobot: when did you switch to 9 for your tables?
<5> But it says background and text are handled separately, causing the background to affect the appearance of the text
<5> Not sure exactly what that means.
<0> Twey: are or are not?
<5> Are.
<8> reisio: A while ago
<5> That's why it's confusing.
<5> :-P
<0> Nanobot: during beta or...?
<8> No, some time after it went final
<0> ah
<8> I was actually a little late testing its support
<4> it's 9.01 stable now
<8> I don't test Opera betas, because there tend to be a lot of changes between the last beta and the final release
<0> well color me unobservant
<5> Lol
<4> :)
<1> reisio: do i have to use position absolute? because it's not working for me. http://elekchron.org/resafdafda/index.php?page=default maybe i did something wrong?
<0> Elekchron: what's not working for you?
<1> the bg thing
<0> oh
<1> http://reisio.com/temp/punkid/
<1> that thing u gave me
<0> how's it not working?
<1> its not showing
<0> 'it'?
<1> the transparent background
<0> on what?
<1> #main .post_bg {background-color: #000;opacity: 0.5;}
<1> under the newest post "new project"
<1> thats where its suppose to show
<0> 1min
<1> k
<0> well did you give it a height or width?
<1> o hmm
<1> but i don't know the exact height
<1> i know the width
<1> height depends on the text
<0> so use height: 100%;
<9> im trying to get my div "box" or whatever to stretch to 100% of the page, but height: 100%; doesnt seem to do the trick
<1> reisio: okay i added width: 500px; height: 100%; the bg is still not showing
<4> try html, body {height: 100%}
<0> jadacyrus: don't forget about parents (like 'body' and 'html')
<9> hmm
<9> ok
<4> and if you have float: inside remember about overflow:auto;
<10> hi
<0> Elekchron: 1min
<0> 'lo enz
<1> reisio: okay
<10> tell me, if i have <ul style="font-size: 90%"><li><a href="..." style="font-size: 90%">, what is the size of the link ? 90% * 90% * normal size, or 90% * normal size?
<1> i would guess 90% * normal :)
<1> its just a guess tho
<10> i think it's 90% * 90% * normal
<2> enzo: Its 90% of the parent element. So it depends what the computed valid of the font size for the li is. ***uming 1em, and ***uming that nothing alters the font size in any of the ancestors of the ul. It will be 90% of 90% of the user's preference.
<4> 0.9*0.9*x methink...
<1> lol wow
<11> the web would be such a nice place if i didn't have to worry about IE
<10> ok Dorward, i think so, now how can i do to have 90% * normal and not 90% * 90% * normal ?
<4> incorrect: we know
<2> enzo: Since you know that the ul is 90% normal, you want 100% of that, so just don't set it.
<11> web site development time line, 3% site design, 7% implementation, 90% fixing weird bugs with IE
<10> there's no way to have X % of normal somewhere where there's already a font size Dorward ?
<1> incorrect: i agree :)
<2> enzo: Only by calculating what the font size of the parent element is compared to normal and then scaling your percentage based on that.
<0> Elekchron: I guess its parent has no height
<10> i agree also, i have to use relative size to make IE work when changing the font size, gosh...
<11> i think microsoft should not be allowed to call internet explorer a web browser
<1> reisio: let me try setting a specific height and see if it works
<0> :p
<4> :)
<1> reisio: its because i dont know the exact height for it's parent element >.<
<10> Dorward: % or em have the same logic no ?
<2> enzo: Yes. 1em === 100%
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