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<0> or about helping him....
<1> well, I *say* we'll help now... we'll see later
<2> lol
<2> :)
<2> well I"m going to test the 64 bit
<1> I just returned from a free meal from my new employer, so I'm in a good mood :-P
<2> the guy I'm doing this for wants to watch over my sholder for the install
<0> new employer????
<2> so I may just put the 32 bit os on there cause I'm 100% confident in it
<2> I wish a new employer... this is just a side job
<1> funzone: yeah. I'm working for General Dynamics now.
<2> oh your talking to Evolution
<2> sorry
<0> still as a contractor
<1> I work for GD as a contractor, yes.
<3> ev...you made me jealous today
<1> eh?
<0> Evolution: that is cool....i guess....lmao
<3> you said you had a centos 3 runnin almost 1000 days
<4> hi all
<4> how can I run perl under rescue mode?
<1> w1z3r: follow the command to chroot and run it as you normally would.
<4> hmm I think I miss something with that chroot thing ?
<4> I have done chroot /mnt/sysimage command
<4> and what it suppose to do ?
<1> w1z3r: that's all you need to do.
<4> well I can run perl scripts for example I got cpanel on this hdd and /scripts/pkgacct doesnt work
<2> oh man I hate cpanel
<1> w1z3r: cpanel is its own special brand of hell.
<3> it's like a jail, funzone...not quite tho
<4> :(
<3> you will run across it
<1> you need to seek support for that trainwreck via cpanel channels.
<2> I have a buddy with a ubuntu box and he's got cpanel I can't even manually edit httpd.conf without it breaking
<0> Evolution: isnt that your favorite software to support
<5> w1z3r: when you chroot you are changing the root account to /mnt/sysimage
<6> I tried ripping that out of a box by hand once and finally gave up and reinstalled
<4> oh well..
<5> (that becomes your new root ... just like before)
<4> then anyway to run
<4> "sshd" ?
<2> Evolution: I'm glad it's not just me who hates that app
<1> w1z3r: from rescue?
<4> yes
<1> that's not going to work overly well unless you stand up networking etc. that's not really what rescue is for.
<1> it can be done...
<2> bbiaw
<4> well eth0 is up and server can ping google so I think I have to foward this server to cpanel tech support
<2> going to play with centos x86_64
<4> and they should able to get into server by only ssh so
<1> w1z3r: you need to talk to cpanel.
<4> is there anyway to start sshd while rescue mode ?
<1> w1z3r: ask cpanel support
<3> JC^Omega, what processor you running 64 on?
<1> they may very well replace the ssh we provide, so you need to ask them.
<0> w1z3r: and shoot yourself in the foot...it might be less painful than dealing with cpanel
<4> Evo, ...
<4> funzone, how come
<4> I got 200 accts
<1> w1z3r: I'm quite serious.
<1> cpanel replaces much of the core centos system. any help we give you here may not work.
<1> you need to speak with cpanel support.
<0> w1z3r: what i hear about the horror stories ***ociated with that package..
<4> well I need to provide them SSH access for the valuable support
<4> so I need to start sshd somehow ?
<3> ::Glad I have no clue what cpanel is about::
<1> w1z3r: if they're replaced sshd, any help we provide will be wrong.
<1> SPEAK WITH CPANEL
<4> I prefer #centos help ..
<0> rado1: be glad...lmao
<3> I am already suffering from info-overload
<1> w1z3r: I'm about an inch from losing my happy place and kicking you.
<4> why kick ? cant we ask questions freely ?
<1> I really can't think of any other ways to tell you that cpanel replaces core centos components and because of that we CAN NOT HELP YOU HERE.
<7> mode ?
<7> 19:52 < Evolution> w1z3r: ask cpanel support
<4> OK!.
<3> Evolution: he wants your help even tho it probably won't work
<1> w1z3r: not the same question a few dozen times, no.
<0> w1z3r: please dont piss Evolution off....he gets to be unbearable afterwards...
<8> Has anybody here worked in pci.ids or pcitable before?
<4> yeah well...
<3> ya then it's oh ****!
<8> I am having some issues integrating some new hardware
<1> orlock: which hardware?
<8> Evolution: new nForce integrated ethernet, also a PCI ADSL card
<1> orlock: not sure about the ADSL card, but nvidia should have nForce drivers which work.
<8> i have actually patched the hwdata RPM for the pci adsl card, the on-board ethernet is igivng me the ****s though.. it seems to be supported, but kudzu doesnt think its an Ethernet device
<8> Evolution: Its not the drivers, its integrating it into the hardware list properly
<1> ah.
<8> so that kudzu, etc will know what it is
<8> i built an rpm for the pci adsl card drivers as well, works nicely
<1> the nforce package doesn't update the hw info correctly?
<1> that's ... nevermind, I'm not really surprised by that...
<0> beers are starting to kick in with Evolution...lol
<8> Evolution: the driver is in the stock kernel
<1> orlock: might still need to use theirs
<8> no eed to use the nvidia package, and its pci.ids and pcitable _only_ list their devices
<8> Evolution: theres no issu with the driver
<8> its purely about maping the PCI ID of the card to a device type and driver
<8> so when the PCI bus is scanned, it matches up the PCI ID to the card, and then knows which driver is the correct one
<8> Currently the nvidia ethernet is showing up as "Unknown"
<9> orlock: what hardware is that ?
<10> thanx a lot for everything. good nite
<8> z00dax: nvidia nforce ethernet, the revision i am tring to use isnt set up correctly in the pci.ids/pcitable
<9> is that a nf4 ?
<9> some of the newer nf4 derevatives need a driver built
<8> its not a driver problem
<8> 00:14.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation NV4 Nforce Ethernet (rev a3)
<8> See how it says "Bridge"?
<9> and what driver are you expecting to work with it ?
<9> can you paste the full lspci -v, on pastebin.ca
<8> also in /etc/sysconfig/hwconf, it shows up as cl***: OTHER
<8> z00dax: forcedeth works great
<9> yes becuase the kernel cant handle it
<8> no! its not kernel related!
<8> :)
<8> the driver and kernel are not the issue, its purely the hardware data
<1> orlock: it's 2 on 1 now man!
<9> orlock: you can sto prepeating yourself
<9> orlock: where have you pasted the lspci -v ?
<9> s/prepeating/repeating/
<8> http://pastebin.ca/153985
<8> z00dax: there :)
<1> have you considered trying the nForce drivers?
<0> z00dax: will let you go on that one..since it early morning for you....otherwise we would accuse you of pretending to orc_orc...lol
<9> ok, so how did you work out that forcedeth works for this card ?
<8> You can see the PCI ADSL card in there as well, and it is listed as a Network COntroller, however the nvidia ethernet is listed as a bridge
<8> z00dax: cos i am accessing it over that interface
<9> so once again, what ws your problem ?
<9> s/ws/was/
<8> z00dax: kudzu does not recognise this device as being a valid ethernet/network device
<9> so file a bug report at bugs.centos.org
<8> the driver itself is find if i insmod it.
<9> cool, add this info in the bug report
<8> i actually submitted a patch for the hwdata rpm to Redhat, and the maintainers came back and said "uhh, thanks, but dont give it to us, just update the pci ids at sourceforge"
<9> orlock: and you did ?
<8> it should seriously be a 2 line patch.
<8> z00dax: yeah, and they are still pending, sigh
<9> so your just blabbering in here for no real reason ?
<8> its annoying, cos the drivers work just great, its just that kudzu wont automagically know that its an ethernet device
<8> z00dax: that was a patch for a different device, this nforce controller is in there and listed, but as the wrong device cl***
<8> i'll submit a bug...
<9> orlock: I've lost interest. you're just making noises here with no reason. bye
<8> you are not understanding the problem! :)
<8> you know that there is a list of all the different pci id' and cl***es, and it ***ociates each of those with a driver?
<8> and that is how kudzu knows what devices you have installed, and what srt of devices they are, so it cal load the appropriate modules and configure your hardware in the way you want
<8> it cannot do that if it doesnt know what sort of device a certain pci id corrosponds with
<9> orlock: please take your winning elsewhere
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