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<0> hence the mocking of your abundance of acronyms
<1> are you telling me that there are people running linux that dont know what APF and BFD are?
<2> Erm, yes. It does look like it, doesn't it?
<0> MACscr: I work in .mil, those particular acronyms have about 8 different meanings to me. and that's BEFORE we hit the OS.
<0> now clarify.
<3> Google doesn't know what APF is, unless it's a company, a proprietary firewall, a powerlifting ***ociation, an airport, or several other things that make me suspect you're wrong.
<1> BFD (Brute Force Detection)
<1> APF (Advanced Policy Firewall)
<0> neither of those relate specifically to linux.
<2> Linux has Brute Force Detection?
<4> APF is not part of centos that I am aware
<0> those are concepts, not software.
<1> they both are kind of standards in the web hosting arena. So i guess if your not running servers, then they wouldnt be to popular
<4> MACscr: _whose_ stanadard? not Sans, certainly
<2> Errrm. I know that I *do* run servers.
<2> But even our firewall guy hasn't heard of those.
<0> MACscr: turn the snobbery down a notch. it's misplaced, and is beginning to smell.
<4> MACscr: it really looks like trolling without context
<1> like the military? =P
<5> find . -size +100M gives find: invalid -size type `M'
<4> and of course I run servers, ISP's and teach security on Linux and have not encountered them
<2> Ah, looks like some high level firewall description language.
<1> I apologize for the snobbery. I really do. I guess i just thought it was more standard that it is
<5> but the man page says M is a valid option ... and it works on my gentoo box
<4> MACscr: .mil is awfully sharp on threat analysis and mitigation -- be careful
<3> MACscr: Acronym Finder doesn't know that particular expansion for BFD. And it has 48 matches.
<0> orc_orc: not to mention that we have some amazingly restrictive rules on who gets to use software related to those particular concepts
<1> i have not made any threats and i know a tad about the military, just got out actually
<4> .mil and NSA auditing standards are gold standard, by and large
<3> Creationism: and some new rules on not talking about being in/related to the military on public sites.
<0> yep.
<1> i wonder how recruiters are dealing with that
<3> exempt I'm sure.
<4> MACscr: no-one says you are threatening anyone; the nomenclature and taxonomy of threat analysis are well understood in .mil land was my point
<0> since when have recruiters given factual information?
<1> okie dokie
<2> Hmmm.
<1> lol, true
<2> Later.
<1> i put recruiters right up there with lawyers
<4> MACscr: of course, I Am _ A Lawyer ....
<3> heh
<1> man, could i stick my foot in my mouth any deeper?
<4> disclaimer at: http://pastebin.ca/131604
<3> MACscr: oh, trust me... we've seen far worse :)
<3> at least you're not trying to eat your leg too.
<5> can someone confirm if "find . -size +1M" works for them on centos4.3 ? I'm getting a " find: invalid -size type `M'" error
<1> lol, i probably would have it i hadnt given up on the APF/BFD thing =P
<3> Hobbes`: appears hosed
<5> do I need to file a bug report ?
<6> Hobbes`: no joy here, but find --help doesn't mention it as an option, just the man page.
<6> Hobbes`: check if one exists first
<5> it works on my gentoo box
<5> yeah will do that
<4> Hobbes`: G and M return errors; and nor NOT described in the info page
<4> the info apges anticipate b, c, k and w only
<7> hughes or lance around?
<3> not supporting G and M nowadays is really poor
<4> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=149176
<4> The find(1) man page contained a description of suffixes "M" and "G" for
<4> the argument of the "-size" operator. These suffixes are not supported in
<4> the version of find(1) shipped in Red Hat Enterprise Linux
<4> Hobbes`: were you here just to troll?
<8> morning guys
<0> qkit: what about the ladies?
<8> oop....
<8> morning gals :P
<9> aftenoon room
<9> anyone here use amanda (in both the good and bad times)
<10> How do I uncompress a .rar file on my linux (centos) box?
<3> NoAgendas: 7zip can do it. There's an unrar program, but there's no source available.
<0> NoAgendas: rar e foo.rar
<4> Zathrus: and there are patent and maintenance/security issues which keep RAR out
<10> is 7zip free?
<3> orc_orc: yup.
<3> NoAgendas: yes, both in $$$ and source.
<11> there is source for unrar.
<8> hi orc_orc how is your day.
<4> qkit: hi - long time since we have seen you ;)
<8> yup, have being busy doing my school work and also working. :-P
<8> now cracking my brain on what to do in my final project.
<8> any advise? something cool ?
<4> qkit: what course?
<8> computer science
<4> heh -- what _part_ of CompSci?
<0> any guidelines?
<9> sure a script that installs all the workstation goodies like mediaubuntio or something
<3> donofrioatwork: that's not a CS final project.
<8> not really what course. Just have to come out some sort of product or program by my own which is workable
<8> so stil thinking of what to do. At first i though of doing grid computing. By dont know what can i do with this technology?
<8> :-D
<0> qkit: pc104 board, cpu, ram, + chopped centos +snort -> standalone gateway to auto-id incoming attacks and block them.
<4> qkit: how about: tool to manage a collection of RHEL type practicum 'breaking' scripts, and to generate VMWare test images
<8> what it mean RHEL type practicum 'breaking' scripts ?
<8> some thing like in freebsd which mark the port broken when the user try to install some package?
<4> qkit: part of the RHEL examination is a practical exercise where the candidate is handed a 'broken' system to fix; the breaking, and testing of repair are useful skills to have
<8> now i get it. Is some sort of exam question emulator for the RHEL students, where the emulator will show a broken RHEL os where the student need to fixed it.
<8> was it something like that?
<4> a person who has not signed the NDA mentioned at: http://www.colug.net/notes/0011mtg/RHCE.html can write whatever they wish; this channel has examples to solve all day, every day
<8> hmm, orc_orc, you seem like was the teacher of the RH300 cl***
<4> and so, basically, your project could be to hang out here, and to recreate broken and solved systems, and to make the results available to the community ;)
<8> :-P
<4> qkit: I have intentionally NOT pursued a RHCE because of the NDA restriction, but yes, I am comfortable in my skillset ;)
<8> it looks quite easy. It only need me to install the vmware and RHEL in it and doing some sort of modification to cause the RHEL system not function and safe up the vmware images
<4> qkit: yes
<8> at first i wanted to do to "run an online games on Grid" but look like the project are too big for me
<8> ;)
<4> or better still, have a base image, and collection of 'breaking scripts' to run, one after another, as a person's skills progress, to permit self-testing
<8> i hoping to do something big " soemthing like bittorent where going to befamous one day" :-P
<4> qkit: I want to confirm, though, that you have not signed such a NDA
<8> not. i did not sign any thing with NDA
<4> kk
<9> anyone seem 4.4 as of yet?
<4> qkit: take this transcript, write it up, and see if your advisor will approve it -- I will be happy to participate with test cases, if you decide to so proceed, and I imagine most of the channel will as well ;)
<8> wat thing does most of the time we used it but havent come out a better solution
<8> hmm...can also..
<12> Hi guys!, I need the kernel source rpm, but I can't find by yum which is the package? my kernel is 2.6.9-22.0.1.ELsmp, thanks in advance for the hint
<13> anyone here using the 2.0.6 heartbeat in dev.centos.org testing repo .... there is a fairly significant security issue fixed in the new 2.0.7 rpms released
<4> pablus: for headers, or for a ground up recompile? if the former, you may want: glibc-kernheaders installed
<0> pablus: you should consider updating once in a while. that kernel is very outdated.
<12> for the headers orc_orc
<12> I need to install vmware-tools
<0> pablus: kernel-devel
<12> okis
<0> pablus: also, (again) that kernel is VERY old.
<0> it's about 4 kernels out of date, and has security issues
<14> Hi! I'm using centos 4.3 and having problems with mod_perl
<15> pablus: is there any reason why you are using such an outdated kernel ?
<14> I installed mod_perl with yum .. but Apache::Registry throws an error handling the perl scripts
<14> something about Apache::Constants
<0> dasenjo: is your app expecting mod_perl 2.x ?
<14> Creationism, I'm using apache 2.0.52 and mod_perl .99
<14> 1.99
<15> dasenjo: what is the error ? that would be a good way to start
<4> dasenjo: what is: rpm -q mod_perl httpd | tr '\n' '\t'
<14> z00dax, failed to resolve handler `Apache::Registry': Can't locate loadable object for module Apache::Constants in @INC (@INC contains: .... etc
<14> orc_orc, mod_perl-1.99_16-4.centos4 httpd-2.0.52-22.ent.centos4
<4> dasenjo: ok -- looks like ours then -- please use a pastebin and paste the full error text, and then paste the reference URL here
<14> orc_orc, http://pastebin.com/768210
<14> orc_orc, yes .. pastebin isss .. ss....ssooooo ... slllll ...ow
<15> if someone knows of an out-of-the-box pastebin app, I can slap that onto a domain and run something ...
<4> dasenjo: it may be that you need to use it then ;) still nothing here
<3> pastebin.ca isn't much faster
<3> rafb.net/paste seems decently speedy
<9> anyone have a livecd script (so I can roll my currently working server into a cd/dvd?)
<9> like berlos.de
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