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<0> so it does network stuff fine except telnet and ssh?
<1> Last week I've seen an ADSL Linksys router which seemd to wotk fine, but some web pages just did'nt work. Always the same pages and they never worked. We tried everything from proxy to routing. Then we returned it and it turned out it was malfunctioning.
<2> so it's all very odd
<1> So there are odd things in thes world :)
<0> was it an ADSL2MUE riker_mini ?
<1> And I still think if u want to find the answer, u must eliminate the stuff one by one, no matter how unlikely it could be the cause of the problem
<1> rory: ugh....dunno, my friend had these troubles but I'll try to ask if u'r interested
<0> ag no not really...
<1> it was a non-wireless type nad not cheap
<0> sounds like it could be
<0> had to send it back once already
<0> spontaneously died
<0> and if you try change the ip to anything except the default it doesnt work :/
<2> riker_mini: ok.. good point I can remove the server to another network and see if my error/session hangs are persistant when I've removed the DSL modem/router/and cabling.. thanks
<2> this will beat replacing the server
<1> k, let us know
<0> k, its friday 5pm here, so im going to go home and cry, on monday ill be back and ready to fight with rh/centos/openmosix/gfs/etc
<0> why oh why didnt i take the blue pill?
<1> here too, u must be in Europe :)
<0> no, other side...
<1> mid-east that is
<1> hmz?
<0> no... other other side
<3> :)
<0> :p
<1> what do u mean, it cannot be 5pm Fri anywwhere else :))
<3> Well, it is here.
<1> and where is here? :)
<3> But that's europe also.
<3> Two countries further in a slight northwestern direction.
<0> try a southerly direction...
<0> seeing as for 5pm you can only really go north or south
<0> and theres not much north of you
<1> GMT +1 is GMT +1 :)
<3> rory: No, I meant "here" as a relation to riker_mini
<1> that's 80% mid-east-europe
<1> well, u're right it might be Africa :)
<0> yep
<0> that other place etc
<1> no matter how north I go, it's still europe, and no matter how south I go it can only be Europe or Africa :)
<0> or the north/south pole :p
<0> which in this server room and cold weather it feels like it could be...
<0> anyway, cheers
<1> erm...which is...erm...I'm sure the USA has them ;)))
<4> What the hell? They've closed I-95 because there's a man caught with a gun on a bus?
<5> what part of I-95?
<4> Jacksonville area
<6> Does the CentOS 3.6 kernel support dir_index on ext3?
<6> Or is that strictly a CentOS 4 feature?
<6> n/m, google suggests it's a no-no for 3.x
<7> Hi Guys: How I can install CENTOS in Sparc ?? , because the server dosen't have a graphic card..., so I only know that I can do it by Hyperterminal ... it's wrong? or not?
<8> longword: what is dir_index?
<6> Zath: Filesystem feature, optimizes directory lookups a bit
<8> ah
<6> In particular it makes directories with lots of files less painful AIUI
<1> pablus: try the sparc version :)
<4> pablus, You'll need to use the serial console...
<1> pablus: hyperterminal and minicom should both work depending on your opsys
<4> pablus, If you're using windows, I'd actually recommend teraterm pro. It supports vt100 a little more faithfully than hyperterminal does
<6> Does putty do serial at all?
<6> And wasn't Teraterm a DOS program, back in the day?
<4> putty doesn't do serial, and teraterm has a win32 build
<4> It's a little dated (last release1998ish), but it still works great for serial consoling.
<4> Oh hell, there's a 2002 release too
<6> How dated is Hypertermina!
<6> I'd be surprised if a line of code has changed since Windows 3.1
<4> I'm just pissed MS released a crippleware too.
<4> Not cool releasing demo-quality software as a regular utility
<9> I still use teraterm on Windows for serial connects. It is small and just works.
<8> Dysk: you give far too much creedence to the crappage that is hyperterminal
<4> oh hey, it works in wine too
<4> Haven't used it for years since I switched to linux on any desktop I've used for serial connections.
<4> But I may just use it in wine, as it's occasionally nice to have a regular gui terminal emulator
<4> Zathrus, Didn't I just say that it's crappage?
<10> why would you use wine? what is wrong with minicom?
<8> donavan: I think he was doing a proof of concept test.
<4> Zathrus/donavan: Curious if wine handled serial support properly.
<10> oic, seems silly
<8> there's a number of programs that use serial, so I'd be surprised if it didn't work (and by that I mean -- programs available only for Windows)
<4> yepyep
<4> also wanted to see what they did with the new version before I recommended it.
<4> Seems that they added a bunch of bloatware features nobody will use (built-in web server? scripting, other stuff...) , but it's still nice
<8> scripting is useful... of course, that's crap that decent terminal programs had back in the 80s.
<4> *shrugs* never had to use it, but I guess other people have.
<4> lately I've been using the opengear stuff at work.
<4> Sure it's partly closed source, despite the name, but it Just Works(tm)
<8> Dysk: I'm thinking back to BBS days.
<4> (multiple port serial console servers)
<4> All of my colocated servers have serial consoles. That way we very rarely need to use NOC hired hands for anything.
<4> I've done full OS installs, etc remotely
<4> The opengear is good stuff for what it is, and building a multiple port linux box to do the same thing would have been one more h***le to deal with.
<11> hello all
<4> scott2500uk.
<12> Hey all, is there a handy-dandy command that saves my current routing tables in the sysconfig directory? I ***ume I need "service <name> save" but I'm not sure what the right name is
<9> There is no such command, to the best of my knowledge
<12> curses, so I just have to put it into /etc/sysconfig/network manually then?
<6> Put what?
<12> longword: my routing table
<12> longword: I'd like to define a persistent one
<6> less /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-routes
<6> You'll figure it out from that
<6> Or you'll get bored and lazy and stuff something in rc.local :)
<4> ah yeah, there it is
<12> longword: ah sweet, thanks dude!
<4> longword, Depending on your paranoia level, can be a security and/or network integrity risk
<4> Since there's the delay during bootup between when the interface is up and rc.local runs
<4> so if the routes are security related (i.e. nulling insecure connections), it leaves an attack window open during boots.
<4> and if the routes are just something which allows the server to do its job, it means that booting up takes that much longer, so it increases the downtime by a minute or two in the event of a reboot.
<12> Dysk: Not the case, but that's actually a rather interesting thought. Thanks.
<12> Dysk: Ah, now that is more of a consideration
<4> On my production servers I've gone in and changed the init.d order so that the most critical services start first. My servers boot slow, but I found that it cut down on reboot downtimes by about two to three minutes.
<4> jooony-.
<4> oops, sorry, wrong window...
<4> (and the wrong nick completion too)
<13> I have a question about the x86_64 bit version of CentOS. Is the kernel loaded from the install CD 64 bit code? I'd ***ume so, but I just want to make sure.
<14> gottreu: if you use the x86_64 media, yes the kernel is the 64bit version
<13> Also, when installing, if you deselect all packages but don't select minimal, you should still have a working system, right?
<10> minimal is smaller -- because you have to pick an installation cl*** prior to the package selection screen
<10> workstation/server/everything/custom I believe the options are
<13> Right, I forgot I picked custom, then deselected everything. I'm just dumb.
<13> Hopefully my final question of the day, installing grub to say /dev/sda would put it in the MBR, but if you installed it to /dev/sda2 were a ext3 partition lives, where precisely would it go?
<15> It would be installed on the first couple of bits of /dev/sda2 where it wouldnt be seen by the BIOS
<15> you would need to use a different boot manager to boot it
<10> every (primary) partition has a boot sector, not sure about extended parititons
<13> Ok, thanks. So on boot whatever is in the MBR is loaded and if it so chooses it can then run what's on the various boot sectors of the various primary partitions?
<10> not exactly
<13> Hmm, which part is off?
<10> the default MBR only boots using the active paritition
<13> but if grub is in the MBR, then grub will always run?
<10> providing it can find the rest of it's binaries
<10> according to this, it would seem that logical partitions (in an extended partition) have boot sectors as well -- which would make sence I guess (http://www.faqs.org/docs/linux_admin/x1139.html)
<8> anyone know anything about this erra -- http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2006-0010.html -- I'm getting this annoying email message on my CentOS4 box now
<8> s/erra/errata/
<16> Anyone here run a private mirror CentOS? I thinking of doing one of the office to cut down on bandwidth use. Is there much more to it that running rsync?
<8> jsuther: man createrepo
<8> IIRC
<8> jsuther: and yes, if you have more than 1 box then setting up your own repo is highly encouraged
<10> jsuther: rysnc is all you need if you stick with the stock centos parts -- I'd recommend plenty of research into the proper options and use of the --dry-run option
<10> jsuther: after that, you have to manually manage your own internal .repo file(s)
<16> Found the createrepo package, thanks for the head up about try with dry run at first too
<10> you only need createrepo if you are creating your own repositories
<8> oops
<10> unless you just mirror RPM packages -- but thats silly, mirror enough to do network installs and avoid recreating all the repo data
<17> does yum keep a log of wat it updates any where?
<18> /var/log/yum.log
<17> seanos_work: thanks
<19> Sup doods.
<19> orc_orc.
<19> i r having DNS issues.
<19> Some clients report not being able to resolve domains.
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