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<0> orc_orc i do rpm -U nvu.... and i cant find the file in /usr/src/redhat/SPECS
<0> i am doing an updatedb to search it...
<1> zkorpio: adding a -vvv to the rpm option and using a pastebin will permit me to see that you are doing
<1> heh
<0> ok orc_orc
<0> orc_orc look at this: http://paste.uni.cc/9152
<1> zkorpio: line 56
<1> you did half the build as non-root howto --
<1> you did not remain as non-root
<0> ok so i have that file in /root/rpmbuild/SPECS...
<1> zkorpio: which needs to be editted somewhere as it was designed for an automated buildsystem not fully compatible with RH derived system ***umtions
<1> Zathrus: do you follow how I reached those conclusions?
<2> orc_orc: I haven't looked at the pastebin. I'm merely boggling at "how to do this so very, very wrong"
<1> Zathrus: that is _so_ harsh - we already stipulated that root building is ... dirty
<2> orc_orc: yes, but to switch mid-stream? If you're going to get in the mudpit, at least consumate the thing.
<1> Zathrus: the Osten twins want _your_ pony
<3> orc_orc your pony: http://tinyurl.com/ms4yy
<1> ty pony
<4> hello all, trying to install the perl module XML::LibXML via cpan, get the following errors though: http://pastebin.ca/123833 any ideas would be appreciated
<1> mykilx: don use cpan comes to mind
<2> CPAN is evil.
<5> mykilx: cpan is evil
<2> Evolution: beat you.
<1> mykilx: glad to help
<5> Zathrus: GET OUT OF MY HEAD!
<6> ok so during the anaconda install on this centOS based distro, it never asks for additional drivers, is there a way to force?
<4> how do you suggest i install the perl module then CentOS 3.7 btw
<2> mykilx: it's highly recommended that you find a yum package that provides it.
<5> nny: dd
<7> hahahah, did you read the source code link on that lame cc paste bin?
<6> as in linux dd?
<5> mykilx: yum install
<5> mykilx: from either rpmforge or kbs-Extras
<6> Evolution: you mean at initial CD prompt, when asked to boot kernel?
<1> mykilx: also you need to install the package 'make' with yum
<5> nny: the install prompt, yes.
<4> yum install XML::LibXML ?
<6> Evolution: will try thanks
<1> line 55
<6> Evolution: do i type "linux dd" or just "dd"?
<1> nny: yes
<5> mykilx: with the appropriate repositories, yum install perl-XML-LibXML etc.
<4> no such luck :/ will see if i can find an rpm, thanks all
<6> hehehe
<1> hehehe
<1> the first, however
<6> heh ok
<4> Evolution: ahh ok, thanks
<1> mykilx: there is such - I carry it
<6> orc_orc: trying to install drivers for adaptec POS 1420sa sata pci adapter
<4> orc_orc: do you have a link handy?
<6> should i use the RH3 or RH4 package from adaptec?
<1> mykilx: stand by - on tel
<4> certainly :)
<8> hello all
<2> nny: isn't that fake RAID?
<6> Zathrus: heh, using it as a sata adapter, RAID will be done via software
<8> can anyone pls help me to add some apt repositories
<8> even a link to a list would be good pls
<2> nny: and CentOS can't talk to the chipset natively?
<6> Zathrus: not with this kernel
<6> Zathrus: 2.6.9
<6> Centos release 4
<7> nny: get modern and use 4.3
<6> shows up as unrecognized in lspci
<6> donavan: i would except the distro that uses this centOS release is at 2.6.9 :)
<7> that kernel likely supports your chipset (unless its an ATI)
<8> anyone know a repository for centos apt pls
<7> talk to that distro about getting modern then
<6> add drivers at boot with RH4 packages should solve issue for now
<8> i will wait now for a reply -- thanks
<6> donavan: heh i wish
<7> nny: hopefully your box doesn't connect to any networks
<2> nny: there's some help on this on the centos forums, you may want to google for them.
<6> Zathrus: as far as?
<6> Zathrus: sorry got lost
<2> nny: installing drivers for this card.
<2> donavan: based on some googling, it doesn't appear that the 4.3 kernel supports the chipset in question. Which would make me want to go buy a different (and cheaper) card, but that's me.
<6> Zathrus: ahh ok.. will do.. trying packages during install first, wither gonna work or not
<6> Zathrus: heh me too
<6> Zathrus: thats the last option
<7> Zathrus: as raid or in general?
<2> donavan: appears in general.
<7> I did say "likely"
<6> Zathrus: donavan if you can recommend a pci pr pciexpress sata adapter that works, i'll make that the one i order instead
<2> of course, the 3rd google hit is "Adaptec 1420SA is JUNK!"
<6> or pciexpress*
<6> Zathrus: heh saw that too
<7> nny: I'm not into that, all my stuff is consumer grade crap
<7> motherboard sata connections work for me :D
<6> donavan: me too except i need 6 sata connections
<7> nny: be amused by: http://pastebin.ca/123852
<2> nny: I'd be surprised if http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16816124002 didn't work
<2> and yes, there's multi-port versions available
<2> (I'm sure http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815124027 would work)
<7> external?
<2> donavan: that hasn't been spec'd as a requirement
<2> for considerably more $$$ you can start looking at 6+ SATA II cards that have true hardware RAID and claim to have open source drivers (starts at $145)
<9> I personally am a fan of the 3ware cards
<9> Never had any issues with them
<2> Dysk_work: yes, but that card is $550
<6> mdadm seems to handle raid functions (along with good hardware)... hardware raid is nice, but not a requirement
<10> how can I get a rpm for http://dovecot.org/releases/dovecot-1.0.rc6.tar.gz : I have rpmbuild : I have tried it with -tb option : didn't work
<9> Well, I usually use the 8000-2LP which is less than that but only does raid 1.
<6> and, seeing as how I have ripped my hair out trying to interpet the raid setup for a propreitary or other hardwar card, mdadm is nice because you can replace the hardware, and still rebuild the array
<6> my .02
<9> also the four drive 9500-4LP is $350
<9> Yeah, that is a plus of mdadm.
<6> this box as tons of extra horsepower, and it's a LAMP, so it's not like X is gonna use the 1 Gig of ddr2 ram
<6> just need to find one good sata/ide pci or pcie/x manufacturer that supports linux and stick with it
<2> Dysk_work: for PCI-Express SATA II the _cheapest_ 3ware card that NewEgg has is $550 (and it's PCi-e x4, not x1)
<9> Oh yeah, PCI-express.
<11> I've been quite a fan of mdadm - its worked well for me in most places, but these days with the machines getting so much processing capability - it just seems to be more and more of a bottleneck
<9> My bad, I didn't see that requirement. Most pci-e stuff is still price inflated.
<11> if you need something serious, its well worth it getting h/w raid - and the performance boost is nice too
<9> I was still looking at the regular PCI stuff...
<6> z00dax: not sure if I follow, wouldn't the extra juice give mdadm more resources than hardware raid?
<2> nny: if the CPU is already starved for data, having it spend time processing what it needs to fetch does not help the situation.
<11> nny: the extra juice also means that the apps running the box demand more from the drive resources
<2> nny: as z00dax says, mdadm is great until you reach that point. Then it falls apart quickly.
<6> z00dax: yeah.. this is a lamp, and it's really* only going to be doing samba shares (plus some webaccess to files) so it's not like there's a worry here,... if this was a workstation or high power web server, i'd go hardware all the way
<6> wellt hs card ****s
<6> so any suggestions on the next one?
<6> just need 2 sata ports and support with 2.6.9 or prior kernel
<6> sata 2 would be a plus
<12> you going to see the advantage of sataii over the wire?
<6> prolly not
<2> nny: I linked one.
<6> Zathrus: ok thx
<2> Silicon Image chipset. It's supported.
<12> I have a box with 1.75tb storage with a sata1 card and i don't ever run out of drive first
<6> Zathrus: ordering now
<12> bonded giga
<6> bonded?
<6> Nacho|w: can you explain?
<6> Nacho|w: i am using giga with this as well
<12> bonding individual eth devices for speed and redundancy
<11> Zathrus: thats a jmicron controller!
<11> thats an ahci thing... not a libata contoller
<2> z00dax: the second one!
<11> ah.. there was another one..
<11> ( btw, the ahci stuff works too - i'll get that int the 4.4 centosplus )
<2> the first only had a single port
<6> Nacho|w: will remember to learn/do that after i get this card Zathrus recommeded in
<6> Zathrus: only used 2 port, (adaptec 1200a)
<6> Zathrus: but that worked well
<2> nny: this system already has 3 2 port controllers in it.
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