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<0> also, i just need their wallets, not their brains
<1> you gotta build the machine so they can drool on it and bump into it over and over to type
<2> starfishy: I feel for your customers
<0> why?
<3> aztech_, sata went through some module improvements in the 4u3 kernels, have a look in the changelogs, chipset support is sparse, but better
<0> i want to make the software so easy to use that they dont need brains to do so
<0> and i think thats a good thing
<3> starfishy, just charge them a consulting fee to run the configuration script
<2> aztech_: fake hardware raid isn't supported if thats your objective
<0> so_: splendid idea
<2> I have 1/2 dozen or more sata controllers working just fine
<0> would be kinda inconvenient to have to fly to Timbuktu though just to do that
<3> woo free trip too
<0> yay ;)
<0> anyway, miah, donavan, so_, thanks for your help
<1> sweet. is the kernel able to do any fancy-schmancy sata stuff, like disconnect the drive for swapping? or read it's smart data?
<0> I will build the package the way you suggested
<1> im just curious.. my servers have to use IPMI for that stuff
<2> swapping I doubt
<1> i use software raid
<2> smart works now
<1> nice, thx donavan
<0> I'll also consult with the software developers to see whether we can figure out a way to make basic functionality available without any interaction
<0> so the configure script would be optional
<1> you should see what a pain in the arse it is to use sata with debian right now
<1> it's pissing me off
<1> course, who needs a cdrom drive tho?
<0> I am using SATA with debian, works for me
<0> only with the current installer, though, the installer that comes with the CDs doesnt work AFAIK
<2> #debian is elsewhere
<0> i know
<0> i just try to help where I can
<0> i hope that's ok
<1> donavan, do you use libata for sata?
<1> i suppose not if smartmontools are working
<4> Poding: hi
<4> pony, hi, that is
<5> Hi orc_orc, how is cluecon?
<4> pony: quite technical - no vendor booths - a speaker backed out, so I am on as to centos and cacert shortly
<6> orc_orc: cool :)
<4> hughesjr: we miss you ;)
<6> it would have been fun ... I'm sure
<1> aw sweet, just had to add "-d ata" to the smartd.conf for each scsi disk
<2> who wants a pony?
<5> donavan your pony: http://tinyurl.com/ms4yy
<6> hehehe
<6> pony ... you are very smart
<4> I want a pony
<5> orc_orc your pony: http://tinyurl.com/ms4yy
<7> s/feels/feeds
<7> DOH
<6> miah: that can land you in jail
<7> haha ya
<2> mostly only in the US and muslim countries hughesjr
<6> hehehe
<2> but not georgia
<6> boy, we don't cotton the that kinda behavior in Texas :)
<2> I'd be scared of a bot learning anything from this room
<5> Hi orc_orc
<5> Math is hard! Let's go for a ride!
<6> pony, what is the sqaure root of 4
<8> hughesjr: -2
<2> I'd be scared of a bot learning anything from this room
<6> hehehe
<8> actually a apple with arsenic to a horse is still a hanging offense in some town laws
<5> Hi orc_orc
<9> mmm, LVS goodness
<8> pony does not seem to have a stable connection though
<10> hmm. z00dax is away
<11> Hey there...
<11> I finally got checked into my room..
<4> donavan: the pony user that pings me -- a friend of yours?
<2> distant relative
<4> ahh
<12> silly ponies --
<13> hi everyone, is there some easy way to read reiserfs disk with centos without compiling new kernel
<6> sami: you can use the centosplus kernel
<14> sami: http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/docs/kernel-unsupported/
<13> ok, I'll try to get further with those advices :)
<15> I have just installed centos and I can not use "yum" keeps on giving me "[Errno -1] Header is not complete."
<2> dejavu?
<2> umesh: please see question 5 http://wiki.linux.duke.edu/YumFaq
<15> donavan, thanks
<16> afternoon
<17> I have a question -- I am running CentOS 4.3 fresh install on a dually p3 box and my load is always showing at 1.99-2.00 even when the box is completely idle... Is there any place I could start to check to see why my load isn't 0.00?
<2> what does top show you?
<17> This is the first CentOS box that I have ever had this issue with and I have installed several other 4.3 boxes
<17> idle
<17> Cpu(s): 0.2% us, 0.2% sy, 0.0% ni, 99.7% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si
<17> im beginning to wonder if it is possibly a RAID card issue?
<17> but i have been unable to pinpoint any problems with 3ware 9500 series raid cards and linux causing a high load...
<18> nnstmg: whose 3ware driver are you using?
<17> centos stock kernel
<2> nnstmg: answer my question
<17> donavan: what was your question that i didn't answer?
<18> nnstmg: you're probably mismatching the card's firmware and driver. update 3ware firmware and use the 3ware driver of the same version.
<2> n/m
<18> nnstmg: I'm using the 9550 with 3ware driver/firmware and it works fine with nearly no load
<17> evolution: i was going to try that because I am sure the firmware is not the newest -- i just wanted to run it by someone else to make sure it sounded like a legitimate solution
<17> ill give it a try...thanks
<5> Hi
<2> I'd be scared of a bot learning anything from this room
<9> 'specially if Evolution talks to it.
<19> Hey all. I am interested in trying CentOS but I don't see any Netinstall images... Furthermore it seems theres a whopping 4 cd's to download; I don't feel like wasting 4 cd's. Are all 4 neccessary for installation? Is there a smaller image to pull everything from FTP/HTTP or what not?
<20> There is a server version that is only one CD
<20> You can also do a minimal install from the first cd and use YUM to get the rest.
<2> you can also do a network install for your local(ish) mirror
<19> network install sounds most appealing
<19> Which CD should I use for that?
<19> the server one, or just disc1?
<2> with boot.iso
<19> I'll check it out :^) Thanks donavan and j0hn33y
<21> duckdown : http://mirror.centos.org/centos-4/4.3/os/i386/images/boot.iso
<19> excellent
<19> thanks arrfab :D
<21> np ...
<22> duckdown: I just did another HTTP network install at the datacenter a few days ago
<22> works fine
<22> used boot CD and installed from our very own CentOS mirror
<19> Great
<19> Thats the method I will do for sure
<19> :)
<19> My buddy actually runs a shell company and he's always telling me how much he likes Cent... So I just inherited and old Pentium 3 550mhz clunker from a neighbour so I figure hey, might as well try something new :)
<19> All it needed was a $8 ethernet card and a $40 80gb hard disk and shes good as new
<2> I'd be scared of a bot learning anything from this room
<23> donavan: I'd be scared of someone putting a bot into this room.
<2> range, you have nothing to fear but fear itself
<24> yeah well you guys got it EASY. i have the fear of brain damage by remote controls, fear of spiders, *and* of fear itself.
<24> oh boy tell me about it. what's that called? phobiaphobia?
<21> no f*****g idea .... :-P
<25> hello, where can I find help regarding to kernel driver bonding ? I have it running in mode=4 that is link aggregation, my problem is that only one link works at a time, if I remove that link the other link activvates and vice versa, but I CANNOT get both links to work, which is my dream. Help me please (pointing in right direction at least)
<25> using CentOS 4.3 , driver is 2.6.1 came with centos kernel
<21> robert83a1 : regarding your problem of yesterday for wireless ?
<20> Does device on other end support bonding?
<25> I got past that :) IT ACTUALLY works!
<25> got the same problem with wiress...so I was thinking about missconfiguration
<21> robert83a1 : as j0hn33y said eth bonding needs that your ethernet switches support this kind of configuration ...
<25> pc-----linux with bonding-----linux with bonding---pc
<25> so it's 100% compatbile in theory no ?
<25> nothing between
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