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<0> Worth: Ok
<0> Worth: I terminated the line and
<0> it still reports an error
<1> can I see that zone file now?
<0> Worth: one sec
<0> Worth: http://rafb.net/paste/results/yQqpzB86.html
<2> Worth, How do I tell bind that their nameservers are slaves?
<1> 173 172800 SOA ns1.harveylibrary.org. hostmaster.harveylibrary.org. ( -- where does 173 come from?
<1> mrproper: by setting up a slave zone (type slave)
<0> Worth: I was looking at different options in configure this file and from what I read this is valid
<2> Worth, does godaddy know it needs to be a slave or no?
<1> mrproper: and then defining a set of masters {}
<2> Worth, But if this is a master, I'd still set the masters?



<1> mrproper: I don't know what godaddy does or how it works. I know bind, not godaddy.
<1> muaddib: 173?
<0> Worth: 173 is one of my nets
<1> @ IN SOA ns1.harveylibrary.org. hostmaster.harveylibrary.org. (
<0> Worth: What are you asking me
<1> try that instead
<0> are you asking me to replace 173 with that above
<0> Ahhh ok
<2> Worth, So are the root domain servers slaves to everyone then?
<1> mrproper: no
<1> mrproper: drop me an email and I'll explain it, I really have to get going
<2> Okay thanks.
<0> Worth: Worth this is the error 178.232.70.in-addr.arpa:2: no TTL specified; using SOA MINTTL instead
<1> muaddib: that's just a warning
<0> Worth: I still get dns_master_load: 178.232.70.in-addr.arpa:9: 178.232.70.in-addr.arpa: not at top of zone
<1> muaddib: you can define a TTL by adding "$TTL <value in seconds>" on top of the zone file, but it will work without it
<1> muaddib: can you paste the 178.232.70.in-addr.arpa zone file alone?
<0> Worth: http://rafb.net/paste/results/n2xOyF68.html
<0> Worth: Yes I can define it
<0> what zone file do you want me to put it in
<0> Worth: Are you still there
<1> all of them
<1> it will define the default ttl
<1> but as I said, this is not mandatory
<1> your real problem is the error
<1> prefix the IN NS lines with @ and see if that helps
<0> Worth: prefix @ where
<1> like this -- http://rafb.net/paste/results/YAPt3927.html
<1> if that doesn't work, I'm too wasted to find the error
<0> Worth: LOL
<0> well unfortantely that the error is still being reported
<1> oh
<1> well, I'll be back here tomorrow night, probably with a brighter head
<1> :)
<1> good night chaps
<0> good night
<3> muaddb: I believe its "@ SOA" not "@ IN SOA"
<3> although that may not make any differance... why is the $ORI?G?IN statement there? this is a gualified zone file isn't it?
<0> lurker99: still there
<0> can you run the command host 70.232.178.33
<3> muaddib: works fine - Name: harvey.lib.il.us
<0> lurker99: So when you do a nslookup with the ip address it works
<3> muaddib: and a dig harvey.lib.il.us any is at http://rafb.net/paste/results/LG05kw99.html. 2 'A' records?
<4> how do I disable bind as a recursive name server?
<5> There any issues with bind that let someone remotely redirect what IP is getting resolved for a given address? Someone seems to have redirected my site to a random dead IP but all my DNS info is correct.
<6> hello
<7> moin
<7> karmicthreat: broken resolvers can be tricked to give false responses
<8> evening.
<7> hi nic
<8> I have a question about slave-servers, and their zone-transfers.. When my master-dns sends its notifies, it takes forever for the slaves to initiate the transfer, can I speed it up somehow?
<7> it should transfer immediately ;)



<7> checked the logfiles on both servers?
<7> dumped the traffic between servers with tcpdump?
<8> haven't dumped yet, but did check logs
<8> the slave received the notify the second I reloaded the master
<8> and then nothing happens.
<8> Another slave I don't have access to logs on, did the actual transfer 2.5 hours after I sent the notify
<8> (according to logs on the master)
<7> anything in the slave's logs?
<8> Jun 29 17:25:34 mg1 named[22776]: received notify for zone 'omiprod.org'
<8> and on the master: Jun 29 17:30:34 ct1 named[20471]: zone omiprod.org/IN: sending notifies (serial 2006062901)
<8> but that's all
<8> Since the delay exist on two slaves (on outside my control) I figured it might be some configuration-option, to queue up several transfers at once or something :-\
<8> on = one
<7> very strange..
<7> can you put your slave's config somewhere?
<8> sure, give me a minute
<8> http://mg1.nordkapp.net/dns/
<8> Very basic, more or less the default debian bind9-install
<8> The .local is where I've defined the slave-zone
<7> I use debian too
<8> Some domains have really short TTL's (a few minutes), and this delay is kinda annoying when I change things.
<7> can't see any problems with the config
<8> Could it be something on the master-side since both slaves are "affected"?
<7> start `tcpdump -vvv -i eth0 -s 4096 -tt port 53 and host 80.65.49.30' on the slave and update the zone on master
<7> -n
<7> tcpdump -n -vvv -i eth0 -s 4096 -tt port 53 and host 80.65.49.30
<8> Hm, I get lots of noise, the box does alot of lookups. :>
<8> I can stop postfix for a few minutes, hold on
<8> hm..
<8> nothing?
<7> eth0 is right? the host too?
<8> yeah, eth0 on mg1 and .30 is the IP of the master
<7> uhm, mg1 is the problem? ok
<8> mg1 is the slave
<8> tcpdump gives nothing at all, when mg1 receives the notifies
<7> but it should
<8> the master has three interface-aliases, could the delay happen if it sends the notify from the "wrong" source-ip?
<8> it has listen-on set to the correct IP though, and none of the others
<8> hrm.
<7> when the slaves receive the notify from some arbitrary ip it won't do anything
<8> check the tcpdump.txt file :-)
<8> So I guess my *real* question is - how do I force named to use a different source-address? :)
<7> wrong source ip
<8> yeah, i noticed, hehe
<7> check the bind9 arm. query-source iirc
<8> notify-source seems to be a good choice to change..
<8> oh joy! instant zone-transfers. :D
<8> thanks for your help wulf4 :)
<7> np :)
<9> hello
<7> hi joshua
<9> where you from
<7> born in the internet, near 37.111.215.3
<9> i need a test for my bind
<9> i can't resolv some names
<7> use e.g. dig to debug it
<9> yeah but from other universities
<9> my dns resolve very good
<9> but, the other country in special other universities don't see my wensite
<9> website, sorry
<7> which website?


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