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<0> what do you mean ?
<0> try www.turbocar.ro
<1> yeah, doesn't work for me
<0> hmm why dosen't it work for you ?
<1> hum
<1> now I got an answer
<0> so what's with the SOA thing ?
<0> i mean what's wrong with it ?
<1> please add `ns1' and `ns2' to your turbocar.ro zone file.
<0> ok
<0> but i don't think that's the problem
<1> first: the TTL value of the whole zone ****s. 3 days makes a lot of trouble when you need to change anything. I recommend a maximum of 86400 (1 day) seconds for ttl
<1> the first data field (turbocar.ro.) should read `ns1.turbocar.ro.'
<1> and the second (root.turbocar.ro.) should not have `root' in it. Never work as root!
<1> it creates no real trouble though
<0> ok, changed the ttl



<0> so.. si there any other problem..
<1> the cname record for `www' is messed up. one `.' too much?
<1> or one `ro.' missing?
<0> nope
<0> it's www CNAME cars-rent.
<0> arh
<0> correct
<0> done
<0> how is it now ?
<1> what's your timezone in romania? gmt+3?
<0> 2
<0> hmm or +3 now with summer time... it's 00:08 here
<1> ok :)
<1> fix your soa record
<0> how should it look like ?
<1> first field should be the real primary nameserver, which is ns1.turbocar.ro.
<1> and the second field the email address of someone responsible, with the @ replaced with a .
<1> like larca.turbocar.ro.
<1> never work as `root' ;)
<0> @ IN SOA ns1.turbocar..ro. adi.cars-rent.ro. (
<0> liek this ?
<1> double ..
<0> double ?
<1> ns1.turbocar..ro.
<1> one . too much
<0> oh, done
<1> ok. append the records for ns1 and ns2 to your turbocar.ro zone, this is important.
<0> ns1.turbocar.ro. A 82.76.130.42 like this ?
<1> yes
<0> done
<1> how do you relod dns zones?
<0> everything ok now ?
<0> what do you mean by that ?
<1> when you change something I get a timeout when trying to resolve something
<1> do you type `rndc reload' or do you restart bind using some init script?
<0> using init script
<1> use `rndc reload' if possible
<1> ok. get your ns2 working
<0> ok
<0> ns2 will be hosted at a diff location
<0> in the moring or tomorow
<1> do you know the new ip address?
<0> i didn't decided yet... if i should use antoher server i have.. or use a free dns provider.. what do you think ?
<1> if you have another server which you think is more or less secure from hackers I'd use this
<0> ok i will do the configuration in the morning..
<0> should i do anything else ?
<1> you'll need to tell the .ro registry to update at least two of your domains because the nameserver IPs are saved for those
<0> that's easy... we have a web interface for that..
<1> another thing you could do: ask the .ro registry to more often update their dns servers :)
<0> hahaha... they are verry slow.. :D
<1> .de server get updates every 2 hours
<0> here it takes liek 3 days :(
<1> I think .com or .net or sth like this have instant updates
<0> 3 days for general isp dns server to update
<0> well hopefully it will work soon..
<0> thank's for all the trouble..
<2> anybody familiar with reverse cname lookups?
<1> awad: reverse cname?
<2> i mean, my isp can only delegate control over cname
<1> uhm, yes
<2> hence i understand it, my reverse zonefile requires a dfiferent setup



<1> you probably have less than 256 IPs
<1> the trick is, when you e.g. try to resolve the PTR record of 77.161.5.217.in-addr.arpa. you actually get a CNAME record to 77.72.161.5.217.in-addr.arpa.
<1> and 72.161.5.217.in-addr.arpa is delegated to my dns servers
<2> http://paste.husk.org/6227 is the regular that didn't work, so i'm trying something like http://paste.husk.org/6232 maybe? i'm using http://www.dns.net/dnsrd/rfc/rfc2317.html as a guide but it's terribly advanced
<2> wait
<2> well the thing is i have to set this through a stupid control panel on their website
<1> how many IPs do you have?
<2> i can either set 72.20.4.50 IN PTR power.fox-host.net.
<2> 72.20.4.50 IN CNAME 50.4.20.72.reverse.fox-host.net.
<2> i have two subnets, one with like 2 ips 72.20.4.48/30 and then one from 72.20.13.129 through 72.20.13.254 which is 72.20.13.128/25
<1> ok, let's start with .50
<2> yes
<1> you set up an cname record, but this one is not resolvable
<2> indeed i did
<1> 50.4.20.72.reverse.fox-host.net. has no PTR record
<2> and yeah it's not resolvable
<1> add this record to your fox-host.net zone?
<2> in my provider's control panel, under "edit reverse dns for 72.20.4.48/30" the ip 72.20.4.50 has "IN CNAME 50.4.20.72.reverse.fox-host.net."
<1> yes
<2> my actual bind has this setup http://paste.husk.org/6235
<2> that is ns1.fox-host.net
<2> the db.fox-host.net.rev as you can see is probably as wrong as it can get
<1> you can remove your zone for 4.20.72.in-addr.arpa; you will *never* need it
<2> why not?
<1> noone will ask your server for records in this zone
<2> that's the thing i want to be able to control the reverse myself through my own bind instead of having to plot in manual ptrs at my provider
<1> use "reverse.fox-host.net" instead
<1> to this zone you add records like:
<1> 72.20.4.50 IN PTR power.fox-host.net.
<1> err
<1> no
<1> sorry
<1> 50.4.20.72 IN PTR power.fox-host.net.
<2> wait wait
<2> 50 IN PTR power.fox-host.net. also works right?
<2> the thing is that this is a CNAME delegation from my provider
<2> some of my friends say that's a real bitch to get working because ot requires special configuration
<1> it's not difficult
<2> what about this file http://paste.husk.org/6236
<1> remove this ORIGIN.
<2> why man
<1> because it's bull****
<2> i thought origin was obligatory in newer binds
<1> the default origin is the zone specified in the named.conf
<2> cool
<2> alright
<2> so the zone 30/48.4.20.72.in-addr.arpa. is correct?
<1> no
<1> you do not add anything with in-addr.arpa to your nameserver
<2> interesting
<2> why shouldn't i?
<1> because the cname points to ......reverse.fox-host.net. not to ....in-addr.arpa
<2> oh i see i see
<2> ok
<1> zone "reverse.fox-host.net" { type master; file "db.reverse.fox-host.net"; };
<1> you should have this in named.conf
<2> let me try now
<1> you can also put the records in your `fox-host.net' zone
<2> what do you mean?
<2> i don't need a seperate file for reversion?
<2> seriously?
<1> you can use one, but you don't need it. no joke
<2> hehe
<2> ah this is excellent
<1> when you use it, you need to configure a second nameserver as slave for it. it's nicer, but it's a little bit work
<2> power IN A 72.20.4.50
<2> @ IN PTR power.fox-host.net.
<2> is that ok?
<1> no
<2> or must the @ be 50
<2> yeah the salve ..
<2> slave
<1> 50.4.20.72.reverse IN PTR power.fox-host.net.
<1> $ORIGIN is nice for this case, you can type e.g.:


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