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<0> Hola alguien habla castellano
<1> Bye
<2> LuchoVtn3d, no hablos pero entiendo lo que decir
<0> nealc, Gracias
<0> redblue, Sabes programar en Linux
<0> nealc, Sabes programar en Linux
<2> LuchoVtn3d, linux es sistema operativo. tinen muchas linguas de programacion para linux.
<0> redblue, En ensamblador
<0> nealc, En ensamblador
<0> nealc, Tengo que retirarme, muchas gracias por tu tiempo
<2> LuchoVtn3d, si si. por supuesto estamos no #asm
<2> LuchoVtn3d, como soy tapado.
<3> hello
<4> it appears you can't do 'mov ds, 0x7c0' in real mode? why not?
<4> nor 'mov ss, 0x9000' !?!?
<5> seb-: you cannot move number directly to segment register
<5> seb-: however, putting it in some reg like ax, then moving it from ax to ds or something will work.
<6> does anyone know is you have to do anything special on linux if programming SSE, like enabling it or something?
<5> you need to have linux kernel that supports SSE.
<5> but any version from last few years will do. nothing to bother about.
<5> and, obviously, you need a CPU that supports SSE.
<6> well, this code works on windows but not on linux, maybe a user error, as its a segfault, not sigill or anything
<5> should be sigill if CPU/kernel doesn't know about SSE
<5> so yeah, i guess it is
<7> What does far jumps look in memory?
<7> s/look/look like/
<1> Hi all
<8> EA offset segment
<8> iirc
<7> EA?
<8> db 0eah
<8> EA 33221100 3412 -> jmp 1234h:00112233h
<7> aah, I get it. :) EA is hex number.
<7> sorry.
<7> slow today.
<9> EA is also a bunch of ****tarded kapitalists
<8> lol
<10> down with capitalism!
<7> nopealicious: it's communism inside.
<9> what?
<9> you are a communist?
<9> i don't belive in that since the leaders still ....
<10> not me - just anti-capitalistic
<7> I'm proposant of open-source -lifestyle.
<7> the stuff inside most companies is communistic. taking money from other's work.
<9> that still doesn't keep your beely full Cheery ;)
<7> :)
<9> belly*
<7> nope, but I hope it'll do some day.
<9> well capitalistic companies are moneybased comunes
<9> communistic communes are trust based comunes
<9> that doesn't keep either system from beeing inherently flawed
<7> I think open source is a lot like capitalistic without companies.
<9> not really
<9> imho the OS community counts on the individuals need to be more than he is
<9> every human wants to create
<9> capitalism tries to channel this force for its own wellbeeing
<9> the OS-community does not
<9> it profits from it anyways
<9> commericialism does not
<9> so it must change humans (manipulate them) into helping the system
<10> the basic human rule of living together is to cooperate - OSS does this, capitalism does not
<9> which is a flawed system imho
<9> yes undesktop almost
<10> capitalism just means institutionalized egoism
<9> capitalists cooperate too
<9> but only for 1 reason
<9> and this reason is not the one that we all strive for
<10> cooperation in a more global sense
<7> nopealicious: what's that one reason?
<9> be yourself :)
<9> the thing capitalism can not get worth of
<9> but OS does
<10> anyway, capitalism finally will destroy the world.... it will destroy all un-economic cooperation between humans, it will destroy the environment, etc.
<9> for me any capitalistic motivation can only be a secondary motivation
<9> but when i do an application, making it useable for anyone its a primary motivation
<9> at least for me
<9> im sure many ppl have no use for abstraction
<7> capitalists cooperate, inside their companys from which some are a lot like communistic systems, trying to rather get one paid well rather than everyone in that system.
<9> and love their tiny meaningless lives
<9> i don't tho
<7> if we talk with those terms what they ended to be.
<7> not what they supposed to be.
<9> true!
<10> the main reason to work in capitalism is to work for money - not to create value
<9> but then it doesnt matter if you wanted to help the kitten
<9> if you hugged it to death it is dead
<10> money is the most important thing in capitalism - that's why there can be firms which don't produce anything
<9> yes undesktop well said
<7> nopealicious: I've understood that every goverment created has been supposed to be good for people it serves.
<9> yes Cheery
<7> It's not really same as hugging a kitten.
<9> it was
<9> but gov=power
<9> power tends to corrupt
<7> centralized power.
<9> is absolute power
<9> => corrupts absolutely
<7> you forget that energy doesn't appear nowhere. :)
<9> no it does not
<9> but it is collected in rich mens purses
<9> in m***es
<10> btw, the governments doesn't serve people anymore... it serves lobbies and ideological interests (like: neoliberalism)
<9> and we stupid fags even watch em
<9> on MTV and CNN
<9> and everyone wants to be like them
<7> I think things like OS keeps the power distributed instead of trying to centralize it to some person.
<9> have 100 yachts and 200 ville
<9> not seeing there just ain't enough resources
<7> in OS you can of course give you power to somebody else, but it is not unreversable, you can any time take it away.
<9> OS is not a formed thing
<9> imho it just happened
<9> and it appeared
<9> and since then we call it OS
<9> before that it was free code
<9> written because ppl wanted functionality
<9> a thing that cannot really work in a capitalistic system
<9> since any motivation "should" go into money
<9> as a secondary one
<9> "geting money to get what you really want"
<9> OS is just a primary motivation
<7> true, we could've done open source communities a lot before we even invented computers or code they supposed to execute.
<9> geting what you really want
<9> exactly Cheery
<9> and believe it or not
<9> thats what happens
<9> all these tiny towns in the alps, etc
<9> they basically still work with trust instead of money
<10> there's OS, and there's another idea: intellectual property
<7> I do think there are yet one little special feature, you get by giving to others.
<9> we just changed trust with money
<10> I'm quite happy that we have OS in opposition to IP
<9> coz we couldn't be sure to get our food
<9> yes Cheery
<9> karma :D
<7> undesktop: OS is not opposite to intellectual property.
<10> Cheery: by the basic idea, it is, IMHO
<9> it is the next logical step undesktop ;)
<9> information is free
<9> cannot be limited
<9> and IP would be such a limitation
<10> yeah, information is free versus information belongs to some private person
<9> yes
<9> that is why isohunt.com works
<9> and filesharing will survive capitalism, etcc.
<10> currently they try to kill / to commericalize file sharing
<7> I don't know. I thought you meant intellectual property like your home.
<10> hm no
<10> why is that IP?
<7> Hm. Maybe this isn't.
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