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<0> Synous, interesting. ever consider another company name? :)
<0> I guess that was an old joke for him :)
<1> hi
<2> hi
<1> its a slow night for AI
<3> yeah
<3> where are my vga googles
<4> how and where can i learn about AI?
<5> http://www.aboutai.net/DesktopDefault.aspx
<5> http://trueai.blogspot.com/
<5> http://www.ai-depot.com/
<5> http://www.gamedev.net/reference/list.asp?categoryid=18
<0> asdx, none of the above. http://www.df-cad.dk/web/ai/[Mitchell]MachineLearning(page80-104-neuralnets).zip and: http://www.ri.cmu.edu/pub_files/pub2/pomerleau_dean_1995_1/pomerleau_dean_1995_1.pdf will give you some quick and significant insight
<0> if you mean real AI that is. I can anaswer questions too as you go along
<4> I think I need some introduction to AI
<4> I would like to use AI in my WM.
<4> for example, i would like to do a AI server, and connect my window manager to it, and it would be nice if have a lot of windows and the AI sends some message to the WM for arrange windows and stuff like that
<6> ai is just another tool. It is definitely not a fix for every software engineering problem.
<4> ai, a tool?
<4> AI is just really interesting to me
<6> you are in desperate need of a good book
<4> Buggaboo: i think so
<4> Buggaboo: thanks for replying btw :)
<4> i think i'm going to sleep
<6> for light reading: AI :a modern approach
<6> russel and whatziznehm
<4> ok, i'll search the book
<4> AI is pure logic and algorithm in programming right?
<6> ...
<6> it depends
<6> and what the heck is pure logic?
<6> try not to make too many ***umptions
<4> ok
<7> are those tokyo lectures supposed to be the cutting edge of AI?
<7> they seem pretty useless to me
<8> is there a basic system of some sort thats used to test an ai alg?
<7> rue_house: there's the Turing test
<8> :)
<8> you cant think if you have nothing to think about
<8> so whats being used for foundations?
<7> you cant think about thinking without thinking about thinking about something
<7> i dont know what you mean
<8> so how do you start the system
<8> how does a baby do it?
<8> they kinda come preloaded dont they?
<9> rue_house: you expose it to an environment
<8> like irc?
<9> rue_house: if you want it to turn out psychotic, i suppose so
<8> were it sees lots of strange binary data go by
<9> rue_house: infuse your AI with the goal to find a meaningful and worthwhile goal for its existence
<8> thats unfair torture
<8> though I suppose without it you end up with Marvin
<9> rue_house: it's only what most humans should be doing as they grow
<8> freaking hell, I thought it was to 'fit in' damnit...
<9> rue_house: like i said before, if you want to turn out psychotic
<8> nowonder I havn't been like all the others
<8> well, its too late now isn't it? I'll just have to go kill them all
<9> rue_house: none of us are, now you're reaching the truth
<8> its their fault after all, they should have told me
<7> everyone is a robot except you
<8> oh, well, not much point trying to kill them all then is there?
<8> meh, ok, I'll finish reading my book
<8> where was I
<8> oh I need to make a friend
<8> I'm having a few scope problem
<8> s
<8> I wanted to have it see words and figure out things from there
<8> but I realized that it hsould be letters and figure out words
<8> but then I realized that it should see binary data, and figure out letters
<8> so...
<8> now the project its too complex and i'm not getting anywhere
<7> heh
<8> how much of ai is pattern matching?
<8> do you all find
<7> no idea
<8> isn't an analogy a type of pattern matching used for analytical purposes?
<8> just like word recognition, just like character regognition
<9> rue_house: what goal are you trying to achieve?
<8> I need to make a friend
<8> I been trying since grade 6
<8> I think I need help
<8> so far I have a basic idea of how to do context
<9> rue_house: have you considered going to a coffee bar and talking to some pretty girls? (or boys?)
<8> as per being able to support multple conversations simotaniously
<8> :/ what would be the point in that?
<9> rue_house: only that I suggest it's a more practical way of making a friend that ****ing around with AI
<9> ymmv
<9> for what it's worth your goal sounds very fuzzy and ill-defined
<9> i should think that, without breaking it down considerably, it will be hard to come up with actionable solutions
<8> but youhave already made me see the light, I need a pattern matcher
<9> rue_house: if you're just trying to make a chatbot
<9> rue_house: go look at Alicebot
<9> rue_house: which has some reasonably sophisticated pattern based conversation
<8> I do, I need to make a program that can look at a binary stream and match farmiliar characters
<9> rue_house: as long as you stay within the areas its been trained on
<8> I want self trainting
<9> you mean unsupervised learning? well... good luck
<8> I want a bot that can sit in a channel listening to people spouting facts, and have it automatically answer quesiotns
<8> well, lets start simple
<9> rue_house: how familiar are you with the existing work in this area?
<8> you have a character stream, learn all the letters that are relivent in it
<8> (:| not at all sir....
<9> well i think you are setting yourself up for failure or for a lifetimes work
<9> one of those would be worthwhile
<9> but it would probably begin with seeing how other people have already looked at this type of problem
<8> but why should I use their solutons when all they can come up with is "as long as you stay within the areas its been trained on"
<9> rue_house: did i tell you to use their solutions?
<8> there is a really easy solution, its kinda recursive like, but its easy to crack when you have the base of it
<9> rue_house: one of the foundations of modern knowledge is that we build upon those who came before us
<9> rue_house: to build upon we must first familiarize ourselves with what's important from that body
<9> but you go ahead
<9> my advice is worth exactly what you paid for it
<8> ok, lets look at what does work
<8> ai is used in pattern recognition, isn't it?
<8> for OCR?
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