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<0> Bourbaki: the only thing that's open is the virtual machine
<0> the actual implementation of all the .net standard library is microsoft's
<0> so, if you want your program to be compatible with the VM on every windows machine, it has to be written to that api
<0> or you have to ship your program with lots of free standard libraries
<1> and the opcode stuff is also open
<1> hence mono
<0> yes, but mono had to clone all of the .net standard library
<0> it's ridiculous :)
<0> that's not a platform for sharing
<0> it's like netscape/ie
<0> microsoft can break compatability in random places to make it a pain in the *** for people to write programs that run on both platforms
<1> if m$ would think ahead theyd share it on all plattforms
<0> explain :)
<1> well if .net would run on linux they might want to make linux based on .net
<1> because its a lot cooler than c
<1> afaik m$ wrote a .net os already in a lab
<1> do you know the powershell?
<0> right, but why would MS want people to write free versions of all of their proprietary software?
<0> to maximize profit, they need everyone to buy their development tools, to run Vista, and to use as much MS software as possible on .net
<2> why is there a giant Windows Vista tent in front of the bus terminal around here .p
<0> oh, vista is being released on the 31st
<0> maybe it's a preview
<2> so they have a tent in every capital of the world or something?
<2> gotta be pathetic
<0> why not? :)
<2> yeah...
<2> who cares :D
<0> hey, at least they're not paying the rolling stones to make a song about windows
<0> (like they did with win95)
<2> ...
<2> i'm just waiting to see if they have that waist waving evangelist speaking in there
<0> steve ballmer?
<0> :)
<2> they also use those groups comprised of some really sympathetic human person and an evil star trek nerd...
<0> actually nevermind
<0> ballmer would be the "sweaty, red-faced, insane, waist-waving evangelist"
<2> so if someone asks a question they can always either answer really technically and simultaneously calm people down ,p
<2> nah I don't think this place is big enough for him
<0> haha
<0> a HUMAN PERSON
<0> sneaky!
<2> ;))
<0> their marketing is so funny
<0> it hasn't changed in like 20 years
<0> i mean, if it ain't broke, don't fix it
<2> yeah.. why bother :p it's broken anyway.
<2> oh well
<2> I kinda hope people won't take anything too seriously ...
<2> ever.
<2> hmh
<2> now it the time to buy japanese shares
<2> because Vista is going to make the country's economy bloom
<2> ... or so someone speculates.
<2> I don't get wtf Vista has to do with japan's economy..
<0> then why are you buying shares?
<2> out of curiosity, and not a lot =) and not the right ones ;)
<2> the ones that have been speculated about that's.
<2> oh well have to sleep
<1> ok guys gtg to bed
<3> hi room
<4> Can anyone recommend any material for the use of distributed computing in AU ?
<5> =)
<5> Sorry typo
<6> AU = ?
<4> Australia
<4> http://worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/au.htm
<6> Hehe
<6> How's your summer vacation
<4> mine ?
<6> Yeah.. I guess you're at uni
<4> yeap
<4> lol how'd you guess :)
<4> gotta go back soon
<6> I see..
<6> What are you using distributed computing for?
<4> nothing
<4> research phase
<4> I'll be studying it sometime this year
<4> but I've yet to find a nice distributed computing solution I can use/implement
<4> play with :)
<4> I may end up developing my own
<6> I see..
<1> moin
<7> Hi! Do someone know an agent environment with some standard communication method?
<7> What agent environment do you use?
<1> _chris : do you know sourceforge?
<7> Yes. But there is nothing like expirience.
<1> hm i see
<7> What agent environment do you use?
<8> <DanDanger@ef> good morning #ai
<8> <DanDanger@ef> anyone here play Darwinia?
<9> never heard of it
<8> <DanDanger@ef> hi Dan I I'm Dan II
<8> <DanDanger@ef> Darwinia's a cool game
<8> <DanDanger@ef> by Ambrosia software
<8> <DanDanger@ef> check it out
<8> <DanDanger@ef> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwinia_(computer_game)
<10> i played darwinia
<10> but my CPU is bad (2ghz) so it didn't work good, because of it i had to abandon the game in the middle
<8> <DanDanger@ef> well it saves automatically as you go along
<10> i know. but the fps was 3 in some of the levels
<10> so it really ****ed the fun
<8> <DanDanger@ef> but yeah all the 3D rendering probably requires some hefty CPU cycles
<11> does it have anything to do with the inquire of AI, DanDanger?
<10> i don't think it was the 3d rendering
<8> <DanDanger@ef> not that I know of
<10> i bet it was the path finding which wasted the CPU
<8> <DanDanger@ef> check the link
<8> <DanDanger@ef> yes it has to do with AI
<11> how is it interesting for the further development of AI? is there anything new here?
<8> <DanDanger@ef> when I play it it gives me good ideas
<8> <DanDanger@ef> like you move all the darwinians around and their programs enhance as they learn
<8> <DanDanger@ef> and you blow up viruses
<8> <DanDanger@ef> :D
<11> "with their simple, but growing AI, can grow and evolve. "
<8> <DanDanger@ef> yes they start simple
<8> <DanDanger@ef> they just wander around the landscape
<8> <DanDanger@ef> but they get smarter
<8> <DanDanger@ef> I think it's a good model of lifeforms in an environment + gameplay
<10> they are not really learning
<10> its a written code
<10> its a preset
<11> do you not say that code that is created, is written, whether by humans or otherwise.
<10> i meant that the darwinians in the game are not learning , they are operating through diffrent codes when the upgrade goes up
<10> when an AI learn it should operate by the same code
<10> and still his functions will improve
<8> <DanDanger@ef> actually it kind of reminds me of Tron
<8> <DanDanger@ef> and this N64 game called Space Station Silicon Valley
<8> <DanDanger@ef> later taters
<6> D/age
<6> Sorry typo
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