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<0> has pattern been here recently?
<1> I've seen many patterns here
<1> he joined about 48 hours ago
<0> hmm
<0> he told me to come here since it is busy
<0> and i have seen it busy maybe once
<1> well
<1> it's busy if you have anything do discuss
<0> well
<0> the singularity institute is a sham
<0> worthy of not a penny
<1> you also need people to discuss it with
<0> it bothers me that the wikipedia stub on Strong AI seems to have been written by someone from singinst
<0> Its amazing how many websites carry on an on about "general intelligence" and even link to research groups who are working with it (allegedly)
<0> and then upon further examination, one sees that wikipedia never defines "general intelligence"
<2> what is "general intelligence"?
<0> and neither do the research sites
<2> ah, so it doesn't mean anything.
<0> I think we like to tell ourselves it exists
<0> It seems to me that what we see in nature are particular organisms living in particular environments
<2> but what is it?
<0> In many ways "intelligence" is an overcoming of weaknesses.
<0> For example, cheetahs have bodies and mouths that can catch large game
<0> We do not.
<0> In this way we have a "weakness" compared to the cheetah
<0> ah! but we can make tools using intelligence.
<2> ok, if you don't want to define it, fine.
<0> See how intelligence must arrise from some pre-existing weakness?
<2> no.
<0> gzl If we could move like cheetahs and we had large teeth and jaws, we wouldnt need to build tools to hunt game
<2> ok, but I still don't know what you mean by "general intelligence." I was just asking what you were referring to.
<0> In other words... our evolutionary ancestors would never had invented tools
<0> gzl General intelligence is supposedly an attempt to define "intelligence" without regard to the domain or environment the intelligent thing will act in.
<2> ok. that's all I was looking for.
<0> So usually when some 'researcher' tries to define it they come up with a senselss brew of words.
<0> Such as
<0> "Organization across multiple levels of ontological cognitive categorization of the modalites of the etc etc"
<0> some spew of nonsense
<0> I'm of the school that there is no such thing as "intelligence". Its a noun that refers to nothing that really exists in teh world.
<0> WHat we have been calling "intelligence" is really a set of intelligent behaviors.
<0> Humans "posess intelligence" only because we see them engaging in behaviors that we have deemed intelligent
<0> "Organization across multiple levels of ontological cognitive categorization of the modalites of the etc etc"
<0> Poppycock!
<0> unadulterated poppycock
<3> greetings my most excellent friends!
<4> salutations and other such pleasantries
<5> hola
<3> hey guys, when is the next man vs. machine?
<4> who cares. they're all the same anymore
<5> whats man vs machine ? a contest ?
<4> yeah, human playing against a computer, usually (as far as i know) in chess
<3> there any chess games on tv?
<4> not since the last kasparov-fritz match
<3> damn.
<3> oh well.
<4> like i said though, they're all pretty much the same these days
<3> :p
<6> I want a non-supervised match
<4> the GMs always whine until they get exactly the conditions they want
<4> and then they still can't win
<6> non-supervised machine match (supervised learning is okay, but that's a different matter)
<7> what do you mean by a non supervised match?
<8> buggaboo: the operators aren't allowed to change the machines' moves... they just act as hands and arms... so in that respect the match in unsupervised
<3> dmiles, hows the MOO going? :p
<9> hello
<9> AI_coder what is up man!
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