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<0> Looking for a good programming language... Suggestions? <1> fit your tools to the task... what do you want to do? <0> Long term, a program that can propose hypotheses, and test them. <0> Vague? I know... <0> Working on that. <1> yes, that's rather high-level... would need to know more about what you do closer to the code level <0> Right now I'm just learning programming languages. <0> Started on forth today. <1> on a large project you won't just use one language... you need some easy to use interpreted language to automate simple things for proofs of concept, code generation, and so on
<1> why did you choose forth? <0> athena: Good benchmarks; concise, readable syntax. <0> I'm also interested in ocaml. <0> Same reasons. <2> delphi <3> Anyone have a good example of getting AI to generalize? <1> kaeles, what do you mean by generalize? <1> never mind generalising, i want to know if anyone has AI! :) <3> like <3> uh <3> i dunno anymore <3> lol <3> well, basically generalizing a concept or pattern <3> bleh <3> i dunno, time for work anyways <3> :P <3> thanks <4> Kaeles: well, if I took in what you want, there are ontologies that are good to deal with concepts, their relations. There are also some methods/techniques to do pattern recognition <4> data mining is a good field to extract knowledge from data <4> data is your input and you try to get some kind of knowledge from the data <1> ows: ontologies are formed by generalising... i think kaeles was asking for examples of that process <4> data mining <4> web/text mining <1> how is generalisation used in those tasks? <1> topic extraction maybe <4> to create ontologies, usually are used Natural Language Processing (NLP) techniques <4> semantic analysis of documents <4> corpus <1> yes, but that isn't what i was talking about <4> you find patterns of relations between words (that can be concepts) in those docs <4> so, what do you mean <4> try to be more explicit
<1> what does is mean to "generalise"? <1> it, not is <1> once we've got that established, we can address kaeles' question :) <4> well, it's being hard to really take in what do you want to know from the concept generalise <4> you can use bayesian inference to generalise <1> i don't think you understand the concept well if you can't explain it <4> "draw from specific cases for more general cases" <4> extract some knowledge from specific data <4> and generalise to more general data? <1> the difficult part in generalising is determining the salient features <1> that's the basis on which we judge whether it was done "correctly" or not <1> or even being able to recognize features <1> anyway... lots of examples in purported AI of generalising... but usually the task isn't difficult... few features, easy to extract... simply find the features shared by the most instances <4> data preprocessing -> feature selection? <1> what does "->" mean? <4> has algos like <1> if you're asking whether feature selection is a type of preprocessing... i suppose you could cl***ify it as such... depends! <4> <1> the difficult part in generalising is determining the salient features <4> so I said that you could do data preprocessing using feature selection algos <4> I'm not asking :P <1> ok... i'm finding this conversation a bit difficult <4> well that ? was like if does data preprocessing -> feature selection matches what you want? <1> bbl <4> ok <4> cya :) <5> hey everyone <4> hi <6> hey where can i get a good directed evolution paper <7> hmm. what kind of directed evolution paper? <8> hi <2> hi <8> Heya doin Dan? <2> fine thanks :) <8> any progress with creating an ai? <3> anyone read anything about getting depth from a single image? <8> DanF_DrC go skateboard riding. <8> Thou Shall Not Make The Image Of Man. <2> JohnnyL, I don't work on it
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