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<greenthum> agreed
<izz> ubuntu is debian anyway
<greenthum> ubuntu != debian
<bob-E> i find e17, a tad bit unstable, im running, xorg7/xgl/xfce4-svn
<greenthum> e17 has really improved in the last few months. Especially if you use the CVS source
<bob-E> but when it crashes, it crashes
<greenthum> no
<greenthum> when it crashes it gives a segfault and catches it.
<bob-E> last used it december time
<greenthum> allowing you to restart e17 from within your original x session
<greenthum> and so not losing any of your work
<bob-E> it is very flashy e17, but xgl is very ***y
<bob-E> u can run x apps in a vnc if u dont want thenm to die
<greenthum> I want to combine aiglx with e17, it's the fedora core equivalent of xgl
<bob-E> aiglx, should be better for games, as in, they will work, but glx has stepped a tad ahead in development so far
<greenthum> it modifies X less invasively and doesn't depend so much on gnome
<bob-E> xgl only really relies on glitz, as the backend
<greenthum> but you need a gnome app for window decorations don't you?
<greenthum> that's what I waws told
<greenthum> was*
<bob-E> xgl works with kde as well, compiz is just a window manager wirh compositing, which uses a gnome-window-decorater plugin
<greenthum> ah
<bob-E> glx and aiglx both got strength and weaknesses, both do same thing, but like u said, in a different way, in the end, ill just choose the one that works the best
<greenthum> same
<greenthum> whichever I can use more minimally. I don't like wasting CPU time on bloat.
<bob-E> well the benefit of the xgl and aiglx is that they use the gpu not the cpu
<greenthum> indeed, I'll be interested to see how Vista's eyecandy compares to xgl and aiglx
<bob-E> me2, but not bothered about installing vista, watching a vid will be enough
<greenthum> ya, I heard it won't even run on most computers so getting Vista will be a forced hardware upgrade too.
<greenthum> I bet the OEM's are happy about that
<Drexxle> thats how it works, you know that
<greenthum> that's why I never use windows at home.
<LucaBrasi> hi .. can someone please tell me if it's possible for someone to log in to my winxp sp2 system remotely if they had my administrator p***word .. ? And if so, would a specific service have to be running in order for someone to be able to do so
<greenthum> terminal services?
<LucaBrasi> eh?
<greenthum> terminal services is one form of remote login tool windows computers but I don't know if you need to install a server system for the clients or whether it is built into xp
<LucaBrasi> I see
<bob-E> LucaBrasi: only if u have remote desktop turned on, by default it isnt
<LucaBrasi> I see thanks
<bob-E> terminal services aka remote desktop
<LucaBrasi> is there a log in log file of any sort anywhere?
<LucaBrasi> hm terminal services is running here
<LucaBrasi> and I dont think I ever enabled it myself
<greenthum> disable it and reboot
<greenthum> check that it doesn't startup automatically
<bob-E> by default, remote ***istance is on, but u have to maunaually initiate the connection
<LucaBrasi> I cant disable terminal services ...all the buttons are greyed out
<LucaBrasi> even thought its started as 'manual'\
<LucaBrasi> thanks
<bob-E> right click my computer, on properties, then click tab , for remote stuff, and just untick the two tick boxes
<greenthum> rc-update del <service> <runlevel> && /etc/init.d/<service> stop
<greenthum> :)
<bob-E> lol
<bob-E> linux is becoming intuitive now, with all the stuff on freedesktop getting implemebted
<greenthum> yeah, it's getting a lot easier for new users to get into it. Things like knoppix are a real help too.
<greenthum> my sisters MSN account got hacked and her email taken over so I've told her to use Knoppix when online and keep windows for actual work.
<bob-E> i reccomen ubuntu for newbies, even though i never used it
<greenthum> I've tried ubuntu to see what it's like but I have to say it's not really debian.
<greenthum> it's fine until you actually try to do something
<greenthum> and then it all goes tits up
<greenthum> debian unstable is much better
<bob-E> your probably right, i just heard it had a gui for everything, newbies like guis
<greenthum> oh the gui on ubuntu is definitely Granny compatible but installing stuff outside of the default installation and trying to use debian repositories was a nightmare. All debian unstable needs is a GUI front-end for APT and ubuntu users can have all the benefits of REAL debian.
<bob-E> :)
<greenthum> I would only recommend gentoo to a newbie if they were a serious masochist.
<bob-E> i think we solving all the windows problems
<greenthum> lol
<bob-E> gentoo was my first linux distro
<greenthum> redhat 5.2 was my first... back in the day :)
<Drexxle> lets rename the channel to #linux
<greenthum> lol, sorry
<bob-E> i was using freebsd b4 gentoo, so wasnt that big of a leap
<bob-E> well its better than the flame wars
<greenthum> ya I've been meaning to get a spare box to test freebsd 6 on but haven't gotten round to it,
<bob-E> that normally happen here
<bob-E> this channel 3 years ag , used tobe non stop talking
<greenthum> o.O
<greenthum> brb
<Drexxle> ?? quiet
<Drexxle> ?? silence
<Drexxle> speaking havent seen Drexyl for some time
<bob-E> me either , or levi
<bob-E> hows w35t ?
<Drexxle> another one i havent seen
<Drexxle> levi is around
<tnews> startkeylogger
<Jimbn> how do i insert a ton of name <email>, contacts into outlook 2k3 without sending them all an email
<bofh``> put them into a csv and import them into the contacts folder
<Jimbn> will outlook recognize phone numbers and other details?
<Jimbn> if i put it in csv
<bofh``> if you format it properly, yes. and no, i don't remember the format. :)
<Mill> too much drinking makes a mind forget
<mR_sCaRy> as does smoking w33d :)
<cornholi0> no, weed, makes a mind remember things that didin't happen in the first place
<Mill> hahaha
<mR_sCaRy> indeed
<Drexxle> try making a contact and filling in all the details and exporting to csv, then youll have all the column names
<Drexxle> oh well he missed that
<bofh``> that would be a good idea
<tinKeL> cooL
<tinKeL> http://money.cnn.com/2006/03/09/technology/microsoft_origami.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes
<bofh``> I have a few here, I just didn't want to find them. :)
<cornholi0> bungholeo-o-o-o-o!
<WomTiki> 000m
<tinKeL> bofh`: yours is from like the 60s?
<Drexxle> http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0601282.htm haha
<frood_wrk> I'm trying to implement a batch script that will support some selection statements based on the username. username examples BUS123,BUS205,ATH132,CHM123. Is there a way I can extract a specific number of characters or compare them to a given string in dos? I want to perform one operation if the prefix is BUS a different one for ATH etc.
<Drexxle> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/batch.mspx
<Drexxle> http://www.ss64.com/nt/
<frood_wrk> thanks.
<Thanatos2> does anyone know of a batch file that lets u specify a list of directories and removes all the files and folders from that directory
<Monkey386> aha! i bought a segate hdd 300GB
<Vern> it will die within a month
<Monkey386> NOOoooooooo
<Monkey386> i cannot
<Monkey386> it
<Thanatos2> seagates ****
<Thanatos2> big pieces of ****
<Monkey386> it has to be better than WD
<Vern> fijitsu is better than WD
<Thanatos2> western digital is good
<Thanatos2> ibm hard drives are really good too
<fier> rrring
<fier> rrright too
<Monkey386> tell that to the pile of WD drives on my desk going for RMA
<Thanatos2> ive got a 20 GB ibm hard drive that ive been using for 8 years .....
<Thanatos2> no problems at all...
<Monkey386> old drives have less problems
<Monkey386> less dense
<Thanatos2> how do u figure ?
<fier> i got a 1.5 giger that i've been using for like 10
<fier> and it's maxtor ;)
<Vern> if it reaches the year mark, it has a greater chance of surviving longer
<Vern> most drives die within the first 3 to 6 months or some **** like that
<Thanatos2> arent most drives warranties for 1 year from the manufacturer ?
<Thanatos2> *warrantied
<Vern> 5 now
<Monkey386> seagate is 5
<Monkey386> i believe
<Drexxle> yep used to be 1 or 3 depending on oem or retail, now all of them are 5
<MarEakin> what brand/kind/model of notebooks have a reputation for being "the best", are they thinkpads?
<Vern> mikep ownz
<s-fury> mareakin: IBM supposedly has the best laptops.. yes
<s-fury> even tho they aren't ibm anymore.
<s-fury> lenovo.
<MarEakin> i hear.
<s-fury> it all comes down to what you're using it for
<Vern> mmm ibm
<Vern> i wouls ay IBM is most durable
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