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<0> It's a hacked version anyway, avoid it
<1> lol its not "hacked"
<1> hacked would be activation hacks
<1> a rip of a RTM cd isint a hack
<0> It's a hackjob release, 32 bit and 64 bit versions can't fit on the same DVD dumb***, so they hacked it to shreds to make both installs fit
<0> They even went so far as to modify the installer with their own damned wallpaper... and they've never *ever* done that sort of **** before
<0> WinBeta is on the downhill...



<2> well it is a hack
<2> but rather a rip.
<2> but yes a hack.
<0> It's a hack of a rip, if you wanna get technical :)
<3> lands sake :D now we have people trying to get technical about whether something's hack or not :D
<1> broadband no its not lol
<1> vista has all versions ont he dvd it depends on the key u enter which version it installs
<3> that's the official release - but you're talking about something that was done before the official release
<1> so how is winbeta not the official release? its from the RTM cd which the winbeta is a direct rip of
<0> You're still not getting it
<3> yeah
<0> You can't fit the 32 bit version of Vista and the 64 bit version of Vista on a single layer DVD
<1> why is that?
<1> the 32 bit version alone is 2.4gigs
<0> Both versions (I said nothing about editions, those are different) take up almost 6GB of space total
<1> maybe uncompressed
<0> Vista 32 bit is about 2.8GB, Vista 64 is about 3.2
<3> not to mention you're still saying "RTM cd" and the release is on a DVD - kinda conflicting in itself, too
<0> Regardless, they can't both fit on a single DVD, period
<0> Microsoft ain't shipping dual layer DVDs either
<3> it's already been stated that they're doing the 32 bit stuff in boxed editions, etc
<3> and if you want 64 bit, you have to personally ask for it
<3> it won't be together with 32 bit
<0> So the WinBeta-boys hacked out a lot of 64 bit code to fit the 32 bit counterparts... when you install a 64 bit version of whichever edition you want off that AIO DVD, you get more 32 bit code than you're supposed to
<1> hrmm
<1> well i dont really care about the 64bit version anyway, ive just heard the billgates has issues installing so i figured i would get the winbeta 1
<0> It works, for the most part, but as I said, the WinBeta peeps have *never ever ever EVER* modified a release before... not ever, they release the unmodified ISOs from Microsoft... for some really ****in' weird reason, they decided to mess with this one and I don't trust it
<3> you'd have a good reason, bb



<0> I just got Vista Business in the mail today... make me an offer :D
<3> i've helped quite a few peeps who had problems with this version
<1> i only want ult version:)
<3> oh, and why's that?
<1> cuz if im going to run a os i want every feature :)
<3> fair enough
<0> And you're running a hacked one right now that doesn't... hehe That's funny :P
<3> yup
<1> im running xp atm
<1> i got the error trying to burn the winbeta version:)
<1> figured i would just get everything setup now before it hits stores but guess thats not happening
<4> anyone know how i can make the sdebar appar again, its set to on and on top of other windows but it doesnt appear
<0> Start - type Sidebar, press Enter
<4> uhm yeah
<4> no go
<4> hm it appeared when I change it to allign to the left then back to right....
<4> typical windows bug
<0> Now you're starting to get it :D
<4> heh
<5> vista in stores now ?
<5> newegg has it and they say instock
<5> http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Shopping/ShoppingItem.asp?ItemList=N82E16832116202
<6> order it then
<5> jsut wondering if its in stores all over now
<0> Not in retail stores, no
<0> That's next week
<5> ok tx
<5> broad i tyhink your correct about all that licencing , but i called ms licencing activation group , they told me i cna upgrand or replace any parts i want to , and reactivate it
<5> but ya its just some freak on the phone when it actually comes down to it i dont think u will be able to
<5> sorry bought all that heartache yesterday :)
<3> meeep


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